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    Originally posted by JL25and3 View Post

    I think it’s particularly newsworthy because Newsom had no opponent, it was just a straight up-or-down vote.
    There were 46 options on the ballot, for who should take office had the recall been successful.

    Did the other 45 candidates ALSO concede? Does anyone even know who they all are?


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      None of what came out yesterday regarding General Milley really surprised me. It was a little scary to hear that Pence considered giving in and sounds like if not for Dan Quayle telling him otherwise January could have been much darker.

      https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ction-1226335/

      During their conversation, Quayle said Pence had no wiggle room and told him to certify the election results. “Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away,” Quayle told him.

      “I know, that’s what I’ve been trying to tell Trump,” Pence responded. “But he really thinks he can. And there are other guys in there saying I’ve got this power.”

      Pence then brought up Trump’s allegations of voter fraud and the lawsuits filed by Trump supporters in Arizona attempting to decertify Biden as the winner in the state. “Well, there’s some stuff out in Arizona,” Pence said to Quayle, who immediately shot him down.

      “Mike, I live in Arizona,” Quayle said. “There’s nothing out here.”
      "Peril" also describes the tense encounter in the Oval Office on January 5 when Trump pressured Pence to overturn the results of the election. While the showdown went on inside, the two men could hear MAGA supporters cheering and chanting outside near Pennsylvania Avenue.
      "If these people say you had the power, wouldn't you want to?" Trump asked.
      "I wouldn't want any one person to have that authority," Pence said.
      "But wouldn't it be almost cool to have that power?" Trump asked, according to Woodward and Costa.
      "No," Pence said. He went on, "I've done everything I could and then some to find a way around this. It's simply not possible."
      When Pence did not budge, Trump turned on him.
      "No, no, no!" Trump shouted, according to the authors. "You don't understand, Mike. You can do this. I don't want to be your friend anymore if you don't do this."
      A six year old had the nuclear codes for four years.

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        So is anyone ever going to jail over this?
        Stay "We" my friends

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          Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
          There were 46 options on the ballot, for who should take office had the recall been successful.

          Did the other 45 candidates ALSO concede? Does anyone even know who they all are?
          Elder and Failconer(sp?) both conceded. I don’t know about anyone else. There was some porn star on the ballot I forget her name, and the guy who lost to Newsom in 2018 was on th3 ballot but got like 3% of the vote I think. I voted for some idealistic dreamer whose name can’t even recall but liked his policy positions and my wife recommended him.

          that said it looks like Newsom is going to get a larger percentage of the vote than he did in 2018. And it looks like he may win both Orangecounty and Riverside county, both of which he lost in 2018.

          but hey at least 12% of the minority voters in the state were able to cost CA $270M to no recall the Governor.
          Baseball is life;
          the rest is just details.

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            Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post

            Elder and Failconer(sp?) both conceded. I don’t know about anyone else. There was some porn star on the ballot I forget her name, and the guy who lost to Newsom in 2018 was on th3 ballot but got like 3% of the vote I think. I voted for some idealistic dreamer whose name can’t even recall but liked his policy positions and my wife recommended him.

            that said it looks like Newsom is going to get a larger percentage of the vote than he did in 2018. And it looks like he may win both Orangecounty and Riverside county, both of which he lost in 2018.

            but hey at least 12% of the minority voters in the state were able to cost CA $270M to no recall the Governor.
            So those clowns cost the state nearly $300 million, and I read somewhere that Newsome now has $20+ million left over for his next governor's race. What exactly was the point?

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              Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
              There were 46 options on the ballot, for who should take office had the recall been successful.

              Did the other 45 candidates ALSO concede? Does anyone even know who they all are?
              Yes, but that was contingent on his losing the recall. If he had lost that, he still would have had no opponent because he wouldn’t have been on the ballot.
              History is our lessons to learn good things to do and bad things to not do.
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                Originally posted by YFIB View Post

                So those clowns cost the state nearly $300 million, and I read somewhere that Newsome now has $20+ million left over for his next governor's race. What exactly was the point?
                In CA it’s relatively easy to get a recall on the ballot. You only need 12% of the vote total from the prior election to sign a petition in a 5 month window. Apparently there have been A TON of recall efforts over the years and nearly every Governor for the past 50 years in CA has faced at least one recall petition but only 2 have made it to an election.

                this one wouldn’t have even made it to the ballot because at the end of the 5 month period there were only about 750k signatures which was half a million short, but a judge granted a 5 month extension to collect signatures due to the pandemic and Newsom had his dumb ass diner at the French Laundry and Republicans changed their tactics from Newsom sucks to Newsom is a hypocrite and got the remaining signatures needed to get the recall on the ballot based on COVID backlash.

                i think 2 changes should be made. First increase the number of signatures to 25% of the prior election total. second, if the Governor is recalled, the Lt. Governor is promoted to Governor. That would make the recall process for actual crimes, fraud or i competence instead of what it is now which is the loser party unhappy with the results of the election. And both Republicans and Democrats have tried to exploit the CA recall process over the years.

                Baseball is life;
                the rest is just details.

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                  Originally posted by YFIB View Post

                  So those clowns cost the state nearly $300 million, and I read somewhere that Newsome now has $20+ million left over for his next governor's race. What exactly was the point?
                  California GOP priorities:

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                    Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post

                    In CA it’s relatively easy to get a recall on the ballot. You only need 12% of the vote total from the prior election to sign a petition in a 5 month window. Apparently there have been A TON of recall efforts over the years and nearly every Governor for the past 50 years in CA has faced at least one recall petition but only 2 have made it to an election.

                    this one wouldn’t have even made it to the ballot because at the end of the 5 month period there were only about 750k signatures which was half a million short, but a judge granted a 5 month extension to collect signatures due to the pandemic and Newsom had his dumb ass diner at the French Laundry and Republicans changed their tactics from Newsom sucks to Newsom is a hypocrite and got the remaining signatures needed to get the recall on the ballot based on COVID backlash.

                    i think 2 changes should be made. First increase the number of signatures to 25% of the prior election total. second, if the Governor is recalled, the Lt. Governor is promoted to Governor. That would make the recall process for actual crimes, fraud or i competence instead of what it is now which is the loser party unhappy with the results of the election. And both Republicans and Democrats have tried to exploit the CA recall process over the years.
                    Agree that that's a better solution - it's an odd thing to tie the recall to an election. They should be separate.

                    But my point is that Newsom seems to be in a stronger position now, going into an election next year where he has a huge $$$ advantage and has seemingly already defeated his potential opposition

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                      Originally posted by YFIB View Post

                      Agree that that's a better solution - it's an odd thing to tie the recall to an election. They should be separate.

                      But my point is that Newsom seems to be in a stronger position now, going into an election next year where he has a huge $$$ advantage and has seemingly already defeated his potential opposition
                      Unless something goes really sideways in the next 13 months or Newsom has a Cuomo like allegation come to light it seems a foregone conclusion that he’ll win reelection next year.

                      especially if the Republicans nominee is as far right as Elder was.
                      Baseball is life;
                      the rest is just details.

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                        Dan Crenshaw with a compelling case to recall Greg Abbott.

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                          Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
                          i think 2 changes should be made. First increase the number of signatures to 25% of the prior election total. second, if the Governor is recalled, the Lt. Governor is promoted to Governor. That would make the recall process for actual crimes, fraud or i competence instead of what it is now which is the loser party unhappy with the results of the election. And both Republicans and Democrats have tried to exploit the CA recall process over the years.
                          We live in an era of hyper-partisanship. An office-holder's stance on the issues or their actual performance in office aren't as important as whether there's a (D) or an (R) after their name. So, an office-holder can be absolutely outstanding at representing his constituents, and close to 50% of the voters will be willing to recall him based on nothing more than the consonant in parenthesis. I don't think there should be a provision for a petition-generated recall. This should be a function of the State Assembly. Crime? Fraud? Remove them from office. Incompetence? Do a better job at electing competent people. You voted him into office. Deal with your poor decision. The problem with removing someone due to incompetence is that far too many voters will determine incompetence by the (D) or the (R) and not actual performance.

                          "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
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                            Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
                            We live in an era of hyper-partisanship. An office-holder's stance on the issues or their actual performance in office aren't as important as whether there's a (D) or an (R) after their name. So, an office-holder can be absolutely outstanding at representing his constituents, and close to 50% of the voters will be willing to recall him based on nothing more than the consonant in parenthesis. I don't think there should be a provision for a petition-generated recall. This should be a function of the State Assembly. Crime? Fraud? Remove them from office. Incompetence? Do a better job at electing competent people. You voted him into office. Deal with your poor decision. The problem with removing someone due to incompetence is that far too many voters will determine incompetence by the (D) or the (R) and not actual performance.
                            They can, it's called impeachment.

                            But I disagree on the recall, I don't have a problem with the democratic process of recall. I just think the hurdles to have a voter initiated recall should be somewhat high and rare because as you note the general process for getting rid of someone you don't like is vote them out in the next election.
                            Baseball is life;
                            the rest is just details.

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                              Originally posted by YankeePride1967 View Post

                              In a state that is 2-1 democratic, two pieces of advice for the right. Don’t nominate an extreme far right radical. And don’t say the vote is rigged before the votes are totally cast. Not a great strategy for driving turnout. Evidently Georgia wasn’t a lesson. Though I doubt you n this case the latter was the driving force
                              Their latest nominee was no Schwarzenegger.

                              He won't be back.
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                                Originally posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
                                None of what came out yesterday regarding General Milley really surprised me. It was a little scary to hear that Pence considered giving in and sounds like if not for Dan Quayle telling him otherwise January could have been much darker.

                                https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ction-1226335/





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                                I have a 6 year old, and she is vastly smarter, more mature, and more ethical than Herr Drumpf. Don't insult 6 year olds. Lol.
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