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[Yankyfan]

How would you compare Medina vs Gil? Both seem to have very similar profiles.

From what i have seen of both , which is limited from last year .Medina I saw 2 seasons ago has really filled out a bit, Medina has better velo, Easy 98-101 and works with a 12-6 curve. Gil Is 96-98 hitting higher and works off of his FB with a Slider and CU. Medina seems to keep his velo up over 4-5 innings where Gil IMO may be best suited as a Reliever. I would love both as starters though.

[ppa79]

How would you compare Medina vs Gil? Both seem to have very similar profiles.

[kan_t]

Truth is, Hauver did almost all his damage in the first 5-6 games. he has really struggled this past week+

Since his last HR game his OBP is .447 not counting today game which he went 1-5 with a double. His BB/ K is 11/10. His OPS is .818 in those 'struggling' period.

That's really good actually.

[kan_t]

I agree. Gil and Medina are a couple of guys who could wind up better than Deivi Garcia IMO. Exciting times may very well be ahead.

Medina has ace stuff. He just needs to figure out how to command it.

[kan_t]

Luis Gil: 4.2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K

Last 2 starts 8.2 IP, 6 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 17 K

[False1]

You're responding to what, 3 different people tell you that relentless negativity has made the forum less enjoyable? What's not to see? To me, it seems like many don't enjoy baseball the same anymore - even the wins seem to upset people. Imagine if the Yankees had had a losing season in the past 30 years.

We all know they are a flawed team, but these days flawed (but still talented) seems to mean worthy of constant sneering derision. It feels like a political argument rather than one about a sport for enjoyment (one we go to to escape politics for a minute). You can't win them all... but you CAN complain about them all. People obviously are free to do that, just not as fun to take part in.

All that said... cool about Glenn Otto. I'm assuming age 25 in AA means that he's a semi-longshot to be a real MLB starter, but 14Ks out of 16 outs / 19 total batters faced is intense.

Yes, literally three. And I'm sure there are several others. The fact that many don't enjoy baseball the same anymore is kind of the point. I don't think that's because of some massive swell here of people that have the nerve to post non-positive comments. It's because there is a material drop off in the number of people who have a positive outlook on the team at the moment. You've been super active here long enough to know that there was plenty of griping about Vernon Wells, and Joe Girardi, and trading Austin Jackson, and signing Jacoby Ellsbury, and playing Stephen Drew, and not extending Cano, and not including Nunez in a deal for Cliff Lee, and... and... and...

I think I have a fairly balanced POV on this team and past teams; if anything I've been taken to task here for defending Cashman and certain individual players over the years. But it's fine. It's a dialogue, not a group therapy session.

I truly feel like this is a manifestation of the front office's shift in philosophy since GSIII. I've said for some time that treating this team like a cash cow is going to have an impact on fans. The front office has pivoted to "the playoffs are a crapshoot" to excuse the lack of killer instinct to finish off rosters. The front office says "you don't need a team of all stars to win" which while true, ignores the fact that star players and personalities also create excitement and intrigue even outside the lines.

This team has gotten a 42 sOPS+ from 1B, 82 from 2B, 84 from SS, 62 from LF, 65 from CF. The other day the starting lineup had 7 of 9 people batting under the Mendoza Line to start the game. When people talk about those concerns, of course there is going to be some negativity. Conversely, the rotation has been great. When people talk about that, there should be no shortage of positivity. I just objected the other day about someone saying the rotation "has been an utter disaster" or something by posting some statistics showing it's been a top 3ish rotation so far this year. If you see unwarranted negativity, counter it with facts rather than complaints. I don't visit many other Yankee discussion boards, but I'd be willing to bet that any that are filled with people that have half the baseball knowledge as those that are members here are not filled with exclusively sunshiny posts.

[philleotardo]

Dermis Garcia? Yes?

[roysuniverse]

Luis Gil: 4.2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 9 K

[rajah]

I pretty much agree Donny, though there has always been ridicule on the forum for anyone who defends the FO. But what you describe is why I seldom come here any more and have not posted in a while until a few posts today. I do learn from this ML thread. It is generally much better than ITL, with great posters like Snatch Catch.

[Jace]

I think this captures my feelings exactly.

There's just a joylessness to it. It reminds me of what it was like to follow the Knicks, but the Knicks were one of the worst NBA teams for nearly 20 straight years while the Yankees were one of the best in MLB. Just weird.

What is Otto's stuff like? Is it legit to get major league batters out or is he using his experience to get the AA batters out?

Most of what I know about Otto's current stuff is from this article (only a month old):

https://www.pinstripealley.com/2021/...somerset-tampa

He's got a good fastball and an inconsistent but potentially above average (or even plus) curveball. Unfortunately it sounds like the changeup is fringy and his command is below average, so most likely he's going to be a reliever, but he's got real stuff and a chance to start.

[freebubba]

over and over and over and over and over. It's sure limiting my participation.

Agreed. I am down to checking in about once a week, and it is usually just to check this thread.

[sjb23]

I like Gill and Medina also, I just don't want them to blow up with they get to the upper levels. I think we have seen a lot of prospects who were amazing in the lower minors but couldn't hack in the upper levels. Both need to improve their command/control if they want to succeed.

I agree with your last sentence. They both need a full season @ Scranton/Somerset IMO - I'll be watching them closely

[ppa79]

I agree. Gil and Medina are a couple of guys who could wind up better than Deivi Garcia IMO. Exciting times may very well be ahead.

I like Gill and Medina also, I just don't want them to blow up with they get to the upper levels. I think we have seen a lot of prospects who were amazing in the lower minors but couldn't hack in the upper levels. Both need to improve their command/control if they want to succeed.

[ppa79]

You're responding to what, 3 different people tell you that relentless negativity has made the forum less enjoyable? What's not to see? To me, it seems like many of these people don't quite enjoy baseball anymore. Imagine if the Yankees had had a losing season in the past 30 years.

We all know they are a flawed team, but these days flawed (but still talented) seems to mean worthy of constant sneering derision. It feels like a political argument rather than one about a sport for enjoyment (one we go to to escape politics for a minute). You can't win them all... but you CAN complain about them all. People obviously are free to do that, just not as fun to take part in.

All that said... cool about Glenn Otto. I'm assuming age 25 in AA means that he's a semi-longshot to be a real MLB starter, but 14Ks out of 16 outs / 19 total batters faced is intense.

What is Otto's stuff like? Is it legit to get major league batters out or is he using his experience to get the AA batters out?

[sjb23]

You can't win them all... but you CAN complain about them all. People obviously are free to do that, just not as fun to take part in.

I think this captures my feelings exactly.