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    #1666
    Re: Covid-19

    Originally posted by Texsahara View Post
    I am not convinced that beaches being open is crazy. The number of people just needs to be regulated. Whether or not that can be done effectively remains to be seen. Some places will be better at it than others.
    Here at the Jersey Shore you need a beach badge to get on the beach. A season badge costs somewhere around $100 depending on the Town. A daily badge will run $7 to $10 per person. (Insane, right).

    My mom and dad and my mother-in-law live in the same small Town. (6 blocks by 6 blocks)

    Season badges are $95.00. In normal years you could go to the Boro Office anytime (all winter) and buy your needed number of badges.

    This year, they did not allow the sale of badges (unknown times) until 10 days before Memorial Day weekend. They sold the badges from one "beach badge" shack on one end of their boardwalk. The line for badges was 6 blocks long all day every day until the end of the day.

    My wife went down there several times to get badges for her mom's home and my parent's home and could never bring herself to stand in line.

    On Saturday of Memorial Day weekend, it was cold and rainy. My wife headed down there.

    No line. Cool. Got to the shack. Not open. A beach worker down there told her they ran out of badges. They ordered as many as last year. Last year didn't sell out, and this year did. They ordered more.

    Last year on the weekend, you could not shoehorn another body onto that beach. I can't see this ending well.

    There are stories like this for most of the beach Towns in the area.


    Sigh.
    Brian Cashman: "I have no idea."

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      #1667
      Re: Covid-19

      Originally posted by JDPNYY View Post
      Here at the Jersey Shore you need a beach badge to get on the beach. A season badge costs somewhere around $100 depending on the Town. A daily badge will run $7 to $10 per person. (Insane, right).

      My mom and dad and my mother-in-law live in the same small Town. (6 blocks by 6 blocks)

      Season badges are $95.00. In normal years you could go to the Boro Office anytime (all winter) and buy your needed number of badges.

      This year, they did not allow the sale of badges (unknown times) until 10 days before Memorial Day weekend. They sold the badges from one "beach badge" shack on one end of their boardwalk. The line for badges was 6 blocks long all day every day until the end of the day.

      My wife went down there several times to get badges for her mom's home and my parent's home and could never bring herself to stand in line.

      On Saturday of Memorial Day weekend, it was cold and rainy. My wife headed down there.

      No line. Cool. Got to the shack. Not open. A beach worker down there told her they ran out of badges. They ordered as many as last year. Last year didn't sell out, and this year did. They ordered more.

      Last year on the weekend, you could not shoehorn another body onto that beach. I can't see this ending well.

      There are stories like this for most of the beach Towns in the area.


      Sigh.
      My former boss lives in Lavallette. He (major heart conditions), his brother (cancer survivor) and mom (in her 80s) all live together - after the crazy crowds of the last two weekends he's afraid to leave the house even for his daily walk.

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        #1668
        Re: Covid-19

        Originally posted by JDPNYY View Post
        Here at the Jersey Shore you need a beach badge to get on the beach. A season badge costs somewhere around $100 depending on the Town. A daily badge will run $7 to $10 per person. (Insane, right).

        My mom and dad and my mother-in-law live in the same small Town. (6 blocks by 6 blocks)

        Season badges are $95.00. In normal years you could go to the Boro Office anytime (all winter) and buy your needed number of badges.

        This year, they did not allow the sale of badges (unknown times) until 10 days before Memorial Day weekend. They sold the badges from one "beach badge" shack on one end of their boardwalk. The line for badges was 6 blocks long all day every day until the end of the day.

        My wife went down there several times to get badges for her mom's home and my parent's home and could never bring herself to stand in line.

        On Saturday of Memorial Day weekend, it was cold and rainy. My wife headed down there.

        No line. Cool. Got to the shack. Not open. A beach worker down there told her they ran out of badges. They ordered as many as last year. Last year didn't sell out, and this year did. They ordered more.

        Last year on the weekend, you could not shoehorn another body onto that beach. I can't see this ending well.

        There are stories like this for most of the beach Towns in the area.


        Sigh.
        So knowing that they would need fewer people on the beach in order to maintain social distancing, the town decided to sell MORE beach passes than last season. Bad management is hard to overcome. Decide how many people the beach can accommodate safely. Maybe rationing would have make sense? Sell fewer passes then allow even numbered passes on Saturday, odd on Sunday or a reservation system like some of the beach towns in Spain are doing. There are ways to make it work if you care enough. We are such a spoiled country in so many ways.

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          #1669
          Re: Covid-19

          Originally posted by Texsahara View Post
          So knowing that they would need fewer people on the beach in order to maintain social distancing, the town decided to sell MORE beach passes than last season. Bad management is hard to overcome. Decide how many people the beach can accommodate safely. Maybe rationing would have make sense? Sell fewer passes then allow even numbered passes on Saturday, odd on Sunday or a reservation system like some of the beach towns in Spain are doing. There are ways to make it work if you care enough. We are such a spoiled country in so many ways.
          There are two things that will help limit people.

          1) I heard they will be selling limited daily badges. So maybe that's where the rationing takes place.

          2) There is only so much parking in that town (Avon-by-the-Sea). They are not allowing any parking on Ocean Avenue. And usually in the summer months there is diagonal parking on the two block closet to the beach. This year it will only be parallel parking. This will clearly cut down on out of towner's going to that beach.
          Brian Cashman: "I have no idea."

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            #1670
            Re: Covid-19

            Originally posted by Texsahara View Post
            I am not convinced that beaches being open is crazy. The number of people just needs to be regulated. Whether or not that can be done effectively remains to be seen. Some places will be better at it than others.
            I am not sure there are any regulations where my brother lives.

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              #1671
              Re: Covid-19

              Originally posted by ymike673 View Post
              I am not sure there are any regulations where my brother lives.
              A lot of the regulations should be common sense.

              I don't think we'll go to the beach this year unless its for kayaking or something away from everyone. We'll just hang out on the deck and chill. It's only a five minute walk for us to the beach so that will be pretty much the only time we'll see the beach (either walking or jogging).

              Sitting there with the throngs of people... not this year.

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                #1672
                Re: Covid-19

                Originally posted by JDPNYY View Post
                There are two things that will help limit people.

                1) I heard they will be selling limited daily badges. So maybe that's where the rationing takes place.

                2) There is only so much parking in that town (Avon-by-the-Sea). They are not allowing any parking on Ocean Avenue. And usually in the summer months there is diagonal parking on the two block closet to the beach. This year it will only be parallel parking. This will clearly cut down on out of towner's going to that beach.

                We usually spend a week nut farther north near sea bright and sandy hook but I've cancelled the rental for this year. I may pick something else up but on the bay side and just hang there and kayak. Bag the beach entirely. I don't know. I might rather just go camping.

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                  #1673
                  Re: Covid-19

                  Originally posted by Archer1979 View Post
                  A lot of the regulations should be common sense.

                  I don't think we'll go to the beach this year unless its for kayaking or something away from everyone. We'll just hang out on the deck and chill. It's only a five minute walk for us to the beach so that will be pretty much the only time we'll see the beach (either walking or jogging).

                  Sitting there with the throngs of people... not this year.
                  I mentioned that my nephew and his family live on Cape Cod year round, in Brewster. They're not going to the beach at all, because all the out-of-towners have opened their summer houses early and have mobbed the beaches.
                  Russian warship, go **** yourself

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                    #1674
                    Re: Covid-19

                    Originally posted by Texsahara View Post
                    We usually spend a week nut farther north near sea bright and sandy hook but I've cancelled the rental for this year. I may pick something else up but on the bay side and just hang there and kayak. Bag the beach entirely. I don't know. I might rather just go camping.
                    Sea Bright is an interesting town. It goes away when it rains.
                    Brian Cashman: "I have no idea."

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                      #1675
                      Re: Covid-19

                      Originally posted by JL25and3 View Post
                      I mentioned that my nephew and his family live on Cape Cod year round, in Brewster. They're not going to the beach at all, because all the out-of-towners have opened their summer houses early and have mobbed the beaches.
                      I love Brewster. Your nephew and his family are lucky. If you ever get a chance to visit them as its a great little town with easy access to a lot of the Cape.

                      There are a lot of folks basically bailing on the urban areas as quickly as they can and camping out on the Cape. Lot of Bostoners and New Yorkers. NYer's have it a little rougher because of the 14 day quarantine for out-of-staters, plus there is a real anti-visitor sentiment right now, even with rental season coming up and the numbers going down.

                      We've got some work to do to get the house ready for rental. Only had one week cancel out on us. Rather than make them eat the deposit, we just gave them the option to rent next year, so we have a week in mid-July that we're going to be down there for.

                      What's going to be interesting about the rentals is that the language that they're using is purposely wishy-washy. We have a cleaning crew come in after each rental ends and clean the house which leaves at most five hours between renters. I already told my wife that I don't plan on going down there right away, but instead just let the house sit dormant for a day.

                      Sure enough, the state guidelines encourage renters to wait 24 hours between occupancy.

                      Restaurants are going to be something to watch as there will be a mandatory six feet distance enforced between parties with no one party more than six people.

                      I see a lot of barbecue in my summer plans this year.

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                        #1676
                        Originally posted by Archer1979 View Post
                        I love Brewster. Your nephew and his family are lucky. If you ever get a chance to visit them as its a great little town with easy access to a lot of the Cape.

                        There are a lot of folks basically bailing on the urban areas as quickly as they can and camping out on the Cape. Lot of Bostoners and New Yorkers. NYer's have it a little rougher because of the 14 day quarantine for out-of-staters, plus there is a real anti-visitor sentiment right now, even with rental season coming up and the numbers going down.

                        We've got some work to do to get the house ready for rental. Only had one week cancel out on us. Rather than make them eat the deposit, we just gave them the option to rent next year, so we have a week in mid-July that we're going to be down there for.

                        What's going to be interesting about the rentals is that the language that they're using is purposely wishy-washy. We have a cleaning crew come in after each rental ends and clean the house which leaves at most five hours between renters. I already told my wife that I don't plan on going down there right away, but instead just let the house sit dormant for a day.

                        Sure enough, the state guidelines encourage renters to wait 24 hours between occupancy.

                        Restaurants are going to be something to watch as there will be a mandatory six feet distance enforced between parties with no one party more than six people.

                        I see a lot of barbecue in my summer plans this year.
                        How do you go to Cobie's and stay six feet apart?

                        As you can tell, I’ve been there a few times. My nephew's wife was raised in Brewster, and her family ran a B and B there. It is a great little town.
                        Russian warship, go **** yourself

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                          #1677
                          Re: Covid-19

                          Originally posted by JL25and3 View Post
                          How do you go to Cobie's and stay six feet apart?

                          As you can tell, I’ve been there a few times. My nephew's wife was raised in Brewster, and her family ran a B and B there. It is a great little town.
                          You can't really. (And I love Cobie's)

                          Land Ho! is a place we go to a lot (Orleans just up 6A). Between the bar and the restaurant, they're packed like sardines in there. They've go a decent backroom that we have been able to eat in when they've been really busy, but six feet is every other table. And I'm not certain the six feet is even enough.

                          It will be interesting to watch the numbers once things start to truly open up.

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                            #1678
                            Re: Covid-19

                            Originally posted by Archer1979 View Post
                            Good luck with your Dad. Does he live in AZ? How well does he fare with colds/viruses normally?

                            One of the things that I got out of the article was that there are ties to obesity as well. If his weight is under control, that may help.
                            Yes, he lives here. As for your second question, he's a man, so a cold usually means he's at death's doorstep. Or so he thinks.

                            He's average weight, I'd guess. It's really scary.
                            "Our work continues, the fight goes on, and the big dreams never die." -- Elizabeth Warren

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                              #1679
                              Re: Covid-19

                              Originally posted by JL25and3 View Post
                              How do you go to Cobie's and stay six feet apart?

                              As you can tell, I’ve been there a few times. My nephew's wife was raised in Brewster, and her family ran a B and B there. It is a great little town.
                              How do you stay 6 feet apart at Louie's Lunch?
                              You wanna know what? You gotta problem with Luis Cessa, you gotta problem with me. And I suggest you let that one marinate

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                                #1680
                                Originally posted by fredgmuggs View Post
                                How do you stay 6 feet apart at Louie's Lunch?
                                That’s easy. Don’t go to Louie's Lunch.

                                Cobie's is actually good. Have the fried whole clams.
                                Russian warship, go **** yourself

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