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    #3721
    Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
    No limitations of powers? No Tenth Amendment?

    The Civil War didn't disband the Senate, or re-write Article 1 or the Bill of Rights. Should we now just make up the rules as we go, without a defining document? Legislation via Executive Order rather than a process for passing laws?

    That.......wouldn't be good.
    Sure, there can be some limitation of powers. I just think the primary ordering principle should be that state governments generally suck even more than the federal government.
    Russian warship, go **** yourself

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      #3722
      Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
      Let me get this all straight. You asked me to provide examples of government inefficiency. I did. A bunch of them. And now, you're dismissing that list because "it's politically savvy to make the government the enemy." So, the reality is, you want me to provide a list of things the government does wastefully without using any resources that point out government wastefulness? That's going to be a challenge.

      They're allowed to say 'no.'
      Who is “they”? The members of Congress from those states?

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        #3723
        Re: Covid-19

        Originally posted by philleotardo View Post
        Who is “they”? The members of Congress from those states?
        No, the Congress itself, as a legislating body. If members form those states dissent, that's they're prerogative.

        Blaming excessive or wasteful government spending on "someone locally is asking them to" infers that the government must comply with that request.

        "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
        - President Barack Obama

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          #3724
          Re: Covid-19

          Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
          https://fee.org/articles/most-outrag...ernment-waste/
          It seems like we need better enforcement of fraud by private citizens and corporations against the government. It doesn't really detail government waste but rather actual criminal activity against government programs.
          Baseball is life;
          the rest is just details.

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            #3725
            Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
            No, the Congress itself, as a legislating body. If members form those states dissent, that's they're prerogative.

            Blaming excessive or wasteful government spending on "someone locally is asking them to" infers that the government must comply with that request.
            It’s how they got elected in the first place. If you actually want it changed, rather than just feeling important talking about it, literally shrink the government. “Elevator operator” is nothing compared to the expenses of flying Congressional members of Alaska to and from and giving them lifetime benefits. Making the representation proportional would literally be more efficient. Fewer Congressional paychecks, travel expenses, benefits, federal funding for wasteful industries. From states that don’t pay in. You’re giving me $1000 examples. I’m giving you $B examples. That is, if inefficiency is the actual concern.

            But what I’m outlining is the reason why Republicans rail against the Census.

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              #3726
              Re: Covid-19

              Originally posted by philleotardo View Post
              If you actually want it changed, rather than just feeling important talking about it, literally shrink the government.
              Great. I'm in. I've been an advocate of reducing the size and reach of the federal government for years.
              Originally posted by philleotardo
              But what I’m outlining is the reason why Republicans rail against the Census.
              I don't know what the census has to do with governmental inefficiencies, but...OK. From my perspective, the census is required by the Constitution. Republicans can rail against it all they want. It still needs to happen.

              "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
              - President Barack Obama

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                #3727
                Re: Covid-19

                Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
                Great. I'm in. I've been an advocate of reducing the size and reach of the federal government for years.
                I don't know what the census has to do with governmental inefficiencies, but...OK. From my perspective, the census is required by the Constitution. Republicans can rail against it all they want. It still needs to happen.
                They rail against who gets counted for apportioning members of congress, largely to retain what minority rule they can where they can.
                Baseball is life;
                the rest is just details.

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                  #3728
                  Re: Covid-19

                  Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
                  It hasn't been debunked at all.
                  It has. Many times. I'm not going to debunk it again because you didn't listen the first 300 times.
                  "Our work continues, the fight goes on, and the big dreams never die." -- Elizabeth Warren

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                    #3729
                    Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
                    Great. I'm in. I've been an advocate of reducing the size and reach of the federal government for years.
                    I don't know what the census has to do with governmental inefficiencies, but...OK. From my perspective, the census is required by the Constitution. Republicans can rail against it all they want. It still needs to happen.
                    It’s how representation is determined. Republicans know if an accurate one was taken, they would lose position.

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                      #3730
                      Re: Covid-19

                      Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
                      They rail against who gets counted for apportioning members of congress, largely to retain what minority rule they can where they can.
                      I understand THAT. What I don't understand is how the GOP's point of view on the census has anything to do with government inefficiency or bureaucratic bloat.

                      "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
                      - President Barack Obama

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                        #3731
                        Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
                        Great. I'm in. I've been an advocate of reducing the size and reach of the federal government for years.
                        ,
                        Yes, but you don’t give realistic examples of how that would happen. Firing elevator button pusher minus the cost of unemployment is nothing compared to “Zero Senators for Wyoming.”

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                          #3732
                          Re: Covid-19

                          Originally posted by jlw1980 View Post
                          It has. Many times. I'm not going to debunk it again because you didn't listen the first 300 times.
                          Someone else > Wyoming has the same number of Senators as California.

                          Maynerd > That's because Wyoming is a state, and each state gets two senators.

                          Someone else> But California is bigger.

                          Maynerd > That's why California has 53 Congressional Districts, and Wyoming has only one.

                          Someone else > But that's in the House. What about the Senate?

                          Maynerd > We're a collection of individual states. We have two houses in Congress. One is apportioned by population, and the other apportioned to the individual states. That was by design, so the centers of population don't have an undue influence over lower populated areas.

                          Someone else > But Wyoming has the same number of Senators as California.

                          Maynerd > Yes. Yes, they do. Because each state gets two.

                          Someone else > California should have 50 Senators if Wyoming gets two.

                          Maynerd > No. We have states. Each state gets two. Proportional representation is what the House is for.

                          Someone else > But California is bigger. Why do I need to keep debunking this? Why won;t you listen that California is bigger?

                          Sigh.

                          "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
                          - President Barack Obama

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                            #3733
                            Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
                            Someone else > Wyoming has the same number of Senators as California.

                            Maynerd > That's because Wyoming is a state, and each state gets two senators.

                            Someone else> But California is bigger.

                            Maynerd > That's why California has 53 Congressional Districts, and Wyoming has only one.

                            Someone else > But that's in the House. What about the Senate?

                            Maynerd > We're a collection of individual states. We have two houses in Congress. One is apportioned by population, and the other apportioned to the individual states. That was by design, so the centers of population don't have an undue influence over lower populated areas.

                            Someone else > But Wyoming has the same number of Senators as California.

                            Maynerd > Yes. Yes, they do. Because each state gets two.

                            Someone else > California should have 50 Senators if Wyoming gets two.

                            Maynerd > No. We have states. Each state gets two. Proportional representation is what the House is for.

                            Someone else > But California is bigger. Why do I need to keep debunking this? Why won;t you listen that California is bigger?

                            Sigh.
                            Your argument is allegedly against inefficiency. Make your point from there.

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                              #3734
                              Re: Covid-19

                              Originally posted by philleotardo View Post
                              Your argument is allegedly against inefficiency. Make your point from there.
                              Asked and answered.

                              "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
                              - President Barack Obama

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                                #3735
                                Re: Covid-19

                                It is laughable to say the private sector is efficient or even more so

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