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    Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
    I'm not. There's no reason to shame anyone. The vaccine isn't mandatory.

    However, I'm all about not letting anyone past the door of the restaurant, aircraft, concert hall, stadium, theater, cruise ship, etc., unless they can show proof of vaccination. Let 'em make their choice, but let 'em stay home. No shame; just isolation.
    If they stayed home I would have no issue. But you know, their freedom (and screw everyone else) they will be right at the seat behind me coughing, no mask. Not sure if shaming is the answer but i also have the right to live

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      In Connecticut, we are at the point where if you want to get vaccinated you now can. Appointments are plentiful and with many options of location. Now time to convince the morons Bill Gates isn’t implanting chips in our brain

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        Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
        I'm not. There's no reason to shame anyone. The vaccine isn't mandatory.

        However, I'm all about not letting anyone past the door of the restaurant, aircraft, concert hall, stadium, theater, cruise ship, etc., unless they can show proof of vaccination. Let 'em make their choice, but let 'em stay home. No shame; just isolation.
        Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't you have an issue with restaurants, etc having to enforce mask wearing?

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          Originally posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
          In Connecticut, we are at the point where if you want to get vaccinated you now can. Appointments are plentiful and with many options of location. Now time to convince the morons Bill Gates isn’t implanting chips in our brain
          I wouldn't say appointments are "plentiful", as I still haven't been able to get one.
          Stay "We" my friends

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            Originally posted by Tyler Durden View Post

            I wouldn't say appointments are "plentiful", as I still haven't been able to get one.
            Yale has them open all next week. Through VAMS, they are plentiful all weekend and you can almost walk into a Walgreens and get one. I looked last night after reading this snd I could have had an appointment any day in the upcoming week

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              Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
              I'm not. There's no reason to shame anyone. The vaccine isn't mandatory.

              However, I'm all about not letting anyone past the door of the restaurant, aircraft, concert hall, stadium, theater, cruise ship, etc., unless they can show proof of vaccination. Let 'em make their choice, but let 'em stay home. No shame; just isolation.
              Vaccinations have been left up to the states up to this point. You can’t get into countries without an up to date vaccination record (including our own).

              This is the ugly side to American exceptionalism.
              “Nobody teaches life anything.” - Gabriel García Márquez

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                Originally posted by ojo View Post

                Vaccinations have been left up to the states up to this point. You can’t get into countries without an up to date vaccination record (including our own).

                This is the ugly side to American exceptionalism.
                As long as the vaccine is only approved for emergency use, my understanding is that the law prevents it from being made mandatory at all. Once it is given full approval, individual states would be allowed to mandate it but that power is not given to the fed government. Jacobson v. Massachusetts. Although it's possible that congress could pass a law under interstate commerce but that aint happening.

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                  Originally posted by YankeePride1967 View Post

                  Yale has them open all next week. Through VAMS, they are plentiful all weekend and you can almost walk into a Walgreens and get one. I looked last night after reading this snd I could have had an appointment any day in the upcoming week
                  I had no luck through VAMS, Walgreens or CVS. I'll check out Yale next. Thanks
                  Stay "We" my friends

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                    Originally posted by Texsahara View Post

                    Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't you have an issue with restaurants, etc having to enforce mask wearing?
                    I don't think so. If so, it's because I worded something poorly. I may have kvetched about restaurants being forced to close their dining rooms completely, but not about masks. Mrs Maynerd and I have been to more than a handful of restaurants since all this started. We wear masks until we get to our table, and not just because it's a mandate in Colorado, but because it's the right thing to do. When the server comes up to the table, we put the masks back on (and that is NOT a mandate in CO).

                    I question the efficacy of masks, but I wear one religiously when I'm around others. Again, even if they're not fully effective, it doesn't hurt.




                    "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
                    - President Barack Obama

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                      I still only do takeout. If they can find a way to eat with the mask on I will go. But if you have your mask off while eating then not sure how much it helps to have a mask policy. I am sure it cute it down some but I also assume people still breathe and talk while eating

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                        I'm not ready to eat inside, luckily I won't have to worry about it until October as it's al fresco season again.

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                          Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
                          I question the efficacy of masks, but I wear one religiously when I'm around others. Again, even if they're not fully effective, it doesn't hurt.
                          Bravo. I realise that's not a content-laden post, but still. If more people could accept that masks don't have to be 100% effective (or even 80%) to be worth doing at next-to-zero cost, it would be easier for people at higher risk from Covid to do lower-risk activities like walk around outside or even visit a shop occasionally without feeling like they're rolling the dice.

                          Be seeing you,

                          Saxmania
                          Mayonnaise is a demanding master.

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                            https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/h...na-kariko.html
                            She grew up in Hungary, daughter of a butcher. She decided she wanted to be a scientist, although she had never met one. She moved to the United States in her 20s, but for decades never found a permanent position, instead clinging to the fringes of academia.

                            Now Katalin Kariko, 66, known to colleagues as Kati, has emerged as one of the heroes of Covid-19 vaccine development. Her work, with her close collaborator, Dr. Drew Weissman of the University of Pennsylvania, laid the foundation for the stunningly successful vaccines made by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna.

                            For her entire career, Dr. Kariko has focused on messenger RNA, or mRNA — the genetic script that carries DNA instructions to each cell’s protein-making machinery. She was convinced mRNA could be used to instruct cells to make their own medicines, including vaccines.

                            But for many years her career at the University of Pennsylvania was fragile. She migrated from lab to lab, relying on one senior scientist after another to take her in. She never made more than $60,000 a year.
                            Good read. Amazing woman. Funding for scientific research is completely broken.

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                              https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/09/h...pi-demand.html

                              When it comes to getting the coronavirus vaccine, Mississippi residents have an abundance of options. On Thursday, there were more than 73,000 slots to be had on the state’s scheduling website, up from 68,000 on Tuesday.

                              In some ways, the growing glut of appointments in Mississippi is something to celebrate: It reflects the mounting supplies that have prompted states across the country to open up eligibility to anyone over 16.

                              But public health experts say the pileup of unclaimed appointments in Mississippi exposes something more worrisome: the large number of people who are reluctant to get inoculated.

                              “It’s time to do the heavy lifting needed to overcome the hesitancy we’re encountering,” said Dr. Obie McNair, an internal medicine practitioner in Jackson, the state capital, whose office has a plentiful supply of vaccines but not enough takers.

                              The state reliably votes Republican, a group that remains highly skeptical of the coronavirus vaccine. Nearly half of all Republican men and 40 percent of Republicans over all have said they do not plan to get vaccinated, according to several recent surveys. Those figures have barely budged in the months since vaccines first became available. By contrast, just 4 percent of Democrats have said they will not get the vaccine.
                              I'm so sick and GD tired of red states in the south ruining everything for the rest of us. This is why we need vaccine passports. If you want "muh freedoms!" to not get vaccinated that's fine but you can't go to concerts, airplanes, restaurants, etc.

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                                Originally posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post
                                https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/09/h...pi-demand.html



                                I'm so sick and GD tired of red states in the south ruining everything for the rest of us. This is why we need vaccine passports. If you want "muh freedoms!" to not get vaccinated that's fine but you can't go to concerts, airplanes, restaurants, etc.
                                I'm sure they hate you as much as you hate them but it's more complex than just "muh freedoms!", It's also a lot more than not letting them go to concerts, airplanes, restaurants, etc. We need herd immunity. We need them to help us get there. Shaming or "punishing" them won't work.

                                Another factor in the state’s low vaccination rate may be Mississippi’s large Black community, which comprises 38 percent of the state’s population but accounts for 31 percent of the doses administered, according to state data. Vaccine hesitancy remains somewhat high among African-Americans, though the doubts and distrust — tied to longstanding neglect by the health care system and past government malfeasance like the notorious Tuskegee syphilis experiments — have markedly declined in recent months.
                                Access is still a challenge in swaths of rural Mississippi, especially among African-Americans who live far from the drive-through vaccination sites in urban areas that account for roughly half the doses administered by the state. The scheduling system has also proved frustrating for the poor and for older people, who often lack internet access to book appointments or the transportation to get them to distant vaccination sites.

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