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    Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...&ICID=ref_fark

    Now THAT is how you do a vaccine rollout.
    Good stuff.
    Bring tea for the Tillerman; Steak for the son; Wine for the woman
    who made the rain come; Seagulls sing your hearts away;
    'Cause while the sinners sin, the children play ...

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      Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/te...rch/ar-AAMAmRp

      Seems I missed the 11th commandment. Apparently it is "Thou Shall Not Wear a Mask"
      So many responses to choose from ...
      Bring tea for the Tillerman; Steak for the son; Wine for the woman
      who made the rain come; Seagulls sing your hearts away;
      'Cause while the sinners sin, the children play ...

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        Maybe if we started telling the Republicans they aren’t allowed to get vaccinated if that would get them to go?

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          LOL...


          I have a confession to make: I’m a little jealous of Gov. Gavin Newsom.

          I realized this on Monday as I watched him, dressed in an impeccable blue suit, and scowling and pointing at no one in particular as he laid into the “right-wing echo chamber” and the millions of Americans who have yet to get vaccinated for COVID-19.

          “It’s a choice to live with this virus, and with all due respect, you don’t have the choice to go out and drink and drive and put everybody else’s lives at risk,” he declared during a news conference in Alameda County. “That’s the equivalent of this moment with the deadliness and efficiency of the Delta [variant]. You’re putting other people’s, innocent people’s lives at risk.”
          Dr. Roberto Vargas, an assistant dean at Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science, put it this way.

          “For those of us who are sensitive about blaming people who have suffered from oppression for their behavior or related outcomes, it’s a really tough thing,” he said. “Yes, there may be some behaviors that are going on in Black and brown communities that are putting us at greater risk. At the same time, there’s a level of responsibility at a systemic or institutional level that’s contributing to that disparity.”

          In other words, there’s an inherent white privilege in white rage at the unvaccinated.

          This is something Vargas has understood for months, working at vaccination clinics across South L.A. and having conversation after conversation with people of color uneasy about getting the jab.
          https://www.latimes.com/california/s...hite-privilege

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            Originally posted by YankeePride1967 View Post
            Maybe if we started telling the Republicans they aren’t allowed to get vaccinated if that would get them to go?
            Perhaps age is more of a factor than political party?

            Good read here: Opinion | It’s Time to Rethink What the ‘End’ of the Pandemic Looks Like - POLITICO

            In the past month, the 50-64 group contributed the most Covid-19 dead to the morgue, in part because so many of them have shunned the vaccine. The age factor helps to explain why the rate of vaccination has stalled and is unlikely to accelerate, especially among the 19-to-49 crowd, many of whom feel immortal.
            From the article:
            Age 65-74 -- 91% vaccination rate
            Age 50-64 -- 76%
            Age 40-49 -- 66%
            Age 25-39 -- 57%
            Age 18-24 -- 52%
            Age 16-17 -- 48%
            Age 12-15 -- 37%

            Setting a sensible toleration point for Covid-19 won’t come easy. Nobody wants to be the guy who says, “It’s regrettable but acceptable that this many people die.” But our day of reckoning is drawing near. We can’t hide in our burrows forever.

            "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
            - President Barack Obama

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              Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
              Perhaps age is more of a factor than political party?
              Why can't it be both?
              Baseball is life;
              the rest is just details.

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                Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
                Why can't it be both?
                It can be......and it appears that each is a relevant variable.

                It just seems that if something can fit the "(D)=good; (R)=bad" narrative, nothing else matters.


                "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
                - President Barack Obama

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                  Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
                  It can be......and it appears that each is a relevant variable.

                  It just seems that if something can fit the "(D)=good; (R)=bad" narrative, nothing else matters.
                  I think young folks not getting vaccinated is a big problem.
                  I think mistrust of science and medical field causing vaccine hesitancy is a big problem.
                  I think misinformation from anti-vaxxers is a big problem.
                  I think main stream media adding fuel to the vaccine hesitancy is a big problem.
                  I think elected official making ignorant statements against vaccines is a big problem.

                  They all might have different root causes and solutions but they are all bad.
                  Baseball is life;
                  the rest is just details.

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                    I'm fine being the guy that says “It’s regrettable but acceptable that this many unvaccinated people die.”

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                      Originally posted by Maynerd View Post

                      Perhaps age is more of a factor than political party?

                      Good read here: Opinion | It’s Time to Rethink What the ‘End’ of the Pandemic Looks Like - POLITICO


                      From the article:
                      Age 65-74 -- 91% vaccination rate
                      Age 50-64 -- 76%
                      Age 40-49 -- 66%
                      Age 25-39 -- 57%
                      Age 18-24 -- 52%
                      Age 16-17 -- 48%
                      Age 12-15 -- 37%
                      The age is also a factor of how long dad age group has had access to the vaccines. 12-15 just got it recently so that would explain why theirs is lower than 75 or up who had it since January. A clear and distinct difference, and one with a more fair comparison criteria is political party. One follow a reality star who mocks those who wears masks and a party largely denounces science (45% trust it which goes in line with the vaccination rate). The other listens to add. Fauci and science and a vaccination rate near 70%. It isn’t even debatable the Republicans are the issue here

                      for me if you choose (beyond legit medical reasons) not to get vaccinated, whether it be to own the libs, whether they listen to conspiracy theories, they get zero sympathy from me if they get it.

                      But here is the problem where their “freedoms” impact others. The longer the unvaccinated numbers are high and Covid is allowed to mutate further, at some point a new strain will not be touched by vaccines. Delta, the current strain already is putting a dent in the effectiveness. The selfishness, entitlement wnd stupidity of these people are causing harm

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                        Originally posted by YankeePride1967 View Post

                        The age is also a factor of how long dad age group has had access to the vaccines. 12-15 just got it recently so that would explain why theirs is lower than 75 or up who had it since January. A clear and distinct difference, and one with a more fair comparison criteria is political party. One follow a reality star who mocks those who wears masks and a party largely denounces science (45% trust it which goes in line with the vaccination rate). The other listens to add. Fauci and science and a vaccination rate near 70%. It isn’t even debatable the Republicans are the issue here

                        for me if you choose (beyond legit medical reasons) not to get vaccinated, whether it be to own the libs, whether they listen to conspiracy theories, they get zero sympathy from me if they get it.

                        But here is the problem where their “freedoms” impact others. The longer the unvaccinated numbers are high and Covid is allowed to mutate further, at some point a new strain will not be touched by vaccines. Delta, the current strain already is putting a dent in the effectiveness. The selfishness, entitlement wnd stupidity of these people are causing harm
                        Republicans have been an issue for sure. But Maynerd is right in saying they are not the only issue.
                        Baseball is life;
                        the rest is just details.

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                          Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post

                          Republicans have been an issue for sure. But Maynerd is right in saying they are not the only issue.
                          who cares. if the vaccination rate for republicans was as good as the rate for democrats we would be in pretty good shape and herd immunity would likely be achievable.

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                            FWIW ... apparently, our county has the highest number of registered Republicans in NJ. We are also apparently not a "young" county. We are the only county in NJ that does not have over 50% vax rate according to recent figures.
                            Bring tea for the Tillerman; Steak for the son; Wine for the woman
                            who made the rain come; Seagulls sing your hearts away;
                            'Cause while the sinners sin, the children play ...

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                              Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
                              But Maynerd is right.....
                              I have nothing to add, but wanted to quote this because I don't get a lot of that around here.


                              "But what people tend to forget...is that being a Yankee is as much about character as it is about performance; as much about who you are as what you do."
                              - President Barack Obama

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                                Originally posted by Texsahara View Post

                                who cares. if the vaccination rate for republicans was as good as the rate for democrats we would be in pretty good shape and herd immunity would likely be achievable.
                                Because just convincing hesitant republicans won't be enough for herd immunity. But we would be a lot closer. Don't get me wrong in the fight to get enough folks vaccinated convincing white conservative republicans to get the vaccine somehow is job number #1 in fully and safely opening the country. But it's a tough job overcoming the last year+ of republican messaging.
                                Baseball is life;
                                the rest is just details.

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