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    Originally posted by YFIB View Post


    Do you know what he actually said? Or are you repeating what you read on Twitter?
    What Tex posted is exactly what I thought he said. And I didn't misrepresent it.
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      Originally posted by HfxBob View Post

      What Tex posted is exactly what I thought he said. And I didn't misrepresent it.
      Nonsense. When you say that Fauci said not to change any behavior and conveniently leave out all of the qualifiers he included in that statement, you are most certainly misrepresenting what he said.

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      Originally posted by Texsahara View Post

      Nonsense. When you say that Fauci said not to change any behavior and conveniently leave out all of the qualifiers he included in that statement, you are most certainly misrepresenting what he said.
      Wrong. I was well aware of the qualifiers, which fell under the category of "No s**t, Sherlock". The bottom line message he gave was exactly what I said. Note that he also said quite clearly, "the risk is low" - not once but twice.
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        Originally posted by HfxBob View Post

        Wrong. I was well aware of the qualifiers, which fell under the category of "No s**t, Sherlock". The bottom line message he gave was exactly what I said. Note that he also said quite clearly, "the risk is low" - not once but twice.
        😂 Okay

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          So, in your own words, we can’t trust anything coming out of China; the person most responsible for communicating the threat here abdicated that responsibility- what was the thing that was supposed to have Fauci hit the panic button as a once-in-a-generation emergency? And, when he did communicate that level of threat what was (and still is) the response of Trump and his followers? Death threats were just a part of it. There’s nothing that could have been said to those people that would have changed where we are now.

          But we could have had someone in charge that maintained the existing response plan and team.

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            Originally posted by Texsahara View Post

            😂 Okay
            Mostly False: Dr. Anthony Fauci “was telling people on February 29th that there was nothing to worry about and it posed no threat to the US public at large.”


            Explanation: On Feb. 29, Fauci said rules Americans would come to know as social distancing were not yet warranted. However, just about every other sentence of his remarks was filled with caveats indicating that the situation could change. He did not suggest that there was “nothing to worry about” or that the virus “posed no threat to the public.”
            https://www.poynter.org/?ifcn_misinf...ublic-at-large

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              Indisputable facts:

              Feb 29 Fauci says: "the risk is low".
              Mar 11 Pandemic officially declared.

              To each their own, but to me it was a pretty bad call on the risk factor...

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                Originally posted by HfxBob View Post

                Indisputable facts:

                Feb 29 Fauci says: "the risk is low".
                Mar 11 Pandemic officially declared.

                To each their own, but to me it was a pretty bad call on the risk factor...
                You're literally cutting words out of his sentences. Not sure if you are really expecting anyone to take it seriously.

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                  Originally posted by YFIB View Post

                  You're literally cutting words out of his sentences. Not sure if you are really expecting anyone to take it seriously.
                  "The risk is low" stands on its own. It's an unqualified assertion.

                  Fauci's statement was clearly much more of a comforting one than an alarming one. I don't see how that can be disputed.
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                    Originally posted by HfxBob View Post

                    "The risk is low" stands on its own. It's an unqualified assertion.

                    Fauci's statement was clearly much more of a comforting one than an alarming one. I don't see how that can be disputed.
                    Do you know what that means? The other words in the sentence (and statement) literally make it a qualified assertion.

                    “Qualify” means that you will modify, limit, or restrict your agreement or disagreement by presenting exceptions.
                    https://answerstoall.com/science/wha...-an-assertion/

                    Hope that's helpful.

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                      Originally posted by YFIB View Post

                      Do you know what that means? The other words in the sentence (and statement) literally make it a qualified assertion.



                      https://answerstoall.com/science/wha...-an-assertion/

                      Hope that's helpful.
                      Yes, I know exactly what it means.

                      Fauci said "the risk is low, but that could change". The second part does nothing to change his present assessment that the risk is low. It just says there may be another assessment later - which goes without saying.

                      It was a bad assessment, considering it was only 11 days before the pandemic was official. Maybe you just can't wrap your head around that.
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                        Originally posted by philleotardo View Post
                        So, in your own words, we can’t trust anything coming out of China; the person most responsible for communicating the threat here abdicated that responsibility- what was the thing that was supposed to have Fauci hit the panic button as a once-in-a-generation emergency? And, when he did communicate that level of threat what was (and still is) the response of Trump and his followers? Death threats were just a part of it. There’s nothing that could have been said to those people that would have changed where we are now.

                        But we could have had someone in charge that maintained the existing response plan and team.
                        Hi Bob. Over here

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                          Originally posted by philleotardo View Post

                          Hi Bob. Over here
                          I'm not saying Trump didn't screw up on COVID. I have heard the stories about him pulling resources out of China before the pandemic, and to be honest I've never really gotten all the details. Knowing what I do now about China's government, I wonder if those resources would have been able to function as intended.

                          I'm just very skeptical of Fauci. Especially because of his connections to the gain of function research stuff.

                          Here's a fairly recent story on that.

                          https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...earch-in-wuhan
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                            Originally posted by HfxBob View Post

                            I'm not saying Trump didn't screw up on COVID. I have heard the stories about him pulling resources out of China before the pandemic, and to be honest I've never really gotten all the details. Knowing what I do now about China's government, I wonder if those resources would have been able to function as intended.

                            I'm just very skeptical of Fauci. Especially because of his connections to the gain of function research stuff.

                            Here's a fairly recent story on that.

                            https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...earch-in-wuhan
                            How many known US Covid deaths on 2/29?

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                              Originally posted by HfxBob View Post

                              I'm not saying Trump didn't screw up on COVID. I have heard the stories about him pulling resources out of China before the pandemic, and to be honest I've never really gotten all the details. Knowing what I do now about China's government, I wonder if those resources would have been able to function as intended.

                              I'm just very skeptical of Fauci. Especially because of his connections to the gain of function research stuff.

                              Here's a fairly recent story on that.

                              https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...earch-in-wuhan
                              I will concede this much- I don’t discount the possibility that it originated in a lab. It’s equally plausible to me as “ate a bat”. But, it also wouldn’t be a first to start from a wet market.

                              But I don’t believe he knowingly downplayed a massive threat only to quickly pivot to extreme measures within weeks. At most, I think we would find he was naive about faith in his peers.

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