Covid-19

[philleotardo]

From comments looks like SCOTUS is going to overturn the vaccine mandate for large businesses. Thanks to these spoiled, entitled and selfish anti science morons this pandemic may never end

Do those comments include Gorsuch’s imaginary flu numbers?

[JL25and3]

Do those comments include Gorsuch’s imaginary flu numbers?

This Court doesn’t even try to be serious anymore.

[Yankee Tripper]

I really, really hope they're right.

Oh and by burn out I mean the Omicron peak. Not the whole COVID pandemic. Unlike the TFG I don't think "It will magically go away" and neither do they.

[YankeePride1967]

Oh and by burn out I mean the Omicron peak. Not the whole COVID pandemic. Unlike the TFG I don't think "It will magically go away" and neither do they.

While I always hope I don’t see an end either

[trapper700]

Child hospitalizations are way up, as well, so good call. And congratulations! You'll be a fantastic parent! 💗

Thanks. I've been very cautious this entire pandemic because my first kid is also below the vaccination age and my wife, who was one of the very first in the country to get the first dose of an mRNA vaccine due to being a nurse at the hospital where they run the Seattle Flu Study, was allergic to it and had to go to the ER twice for anaphylaxis after that first dose, so she's unprotected as well. That's where my anger at how this administration has handled the pandemic stems from, because it feels like a personal attack whenever they say "get vaccinated" and proceed to do nothing to help those in our situation.

[trapper700]

WASHINGTON—As Covid-19 cases climb across the U.S., President Biden and his administration are preparing Americans to accept the virus as a part of daily life, in a break from a year ago when he took office with a pledge to rein in the pandemic and months later said the nation was “closer than ever to declaring our independence from a deadly virus.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-i...fe-11641465004

"Thousands of you will be dying every day, forever from now on. Vote Democrat in 2022"

[trapper700]

I wanted to also add: screw Fauci. He had a very Trump-like response to the question "Why are traditional vaccines like WHO-approved Covaxin, which has proven to be safe and effective in India, and which appears to have the potential to be effective against new variants, being delayed for approval in the U.S.?"

We have enough vaccines. The BEST vaccines available in the United States. I'm puzzled by that question. We have more vaccines than we need right now. We just need the people to get vaccinated with the vaccines that we have. The mRNA vaccines are vaccines that are desired by everyone else in the world so we have what we need. We need to use it.
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We don't need another vaccine. We have plenty of vaccines. They have not applied to get approved.

That man do not give us options. pic.twitter.com/EChtUGjCaW

— vaccineoptions (@charlieblalock2) January 2, 2022

So this is talking about Covaxin in particular. Covaxin is a WHO-approvved traditional "inactivated" vaccine made the same way the polio vaccine is made, by using vero cell growth and inactivation. Fauci lied that they have not submitted for approval, because Ocugen, the company that's handling distribution in the USA, submitted it for approval for 2-18 year olds on November 5. They'd since been in the dark with no updates as to the status since then.

Also, why wouldn't we need or want more alternatives for vaccines? Especially since not everyone can use the mRNA ones. I'd been waiting for updates on Covaxin since June because I wanted a way to vaccinate my now 3 year old. I'm even more upset they haven't authorized it since Pfizer screwed up the dosages for under 5y/o, so the clinical trial has to be extended by X months.

[Yankee Tripper]

Thanks. I've been very cautious this entire pandemic because my first kid is also below the vaccination age and my wife, who was one of the very first in the country to get the first dose of an mRNA vaccine due to being a nurse at the hospital where they run the Seattle Flu Study, was allergic to it and had to go to the ER twice for anaphylaxis after that first dose, so she's unprotected as well. That's where my anger at how this administration has handled the pandemic stems from, because it feels like a personal attack whenever they say "get vaccinated" and proceed to do nothing to help those in our situation.

I am sorry your wife is the roughly one in one million people who have a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine. But I am glad it sounds like she was able to get successful treatment. She is one of the many reason why more people should be vaccinated to help protect people like your wife who can not get the vaccine for medical reason, I truly feel for them but I also think they are less than 1% of the US population and are not the reason our vaccination rates are so much lower than they should be.

The US stats as of 1/5/22 are something like 74.5% 1 dose, 62.3% 2 dose, 22.1% boosted.

As for kids below the age of 5; I believe there have been clinical trials but they weren't as successful as hoped and didn't show as robust an immune reaction as in adults so it was back to the drawing board.

As for what more this administration should be doing for "people in your situation" what do you think that should be?

[Yankee Tripper]

I wanted to also add: screw Fauci. He had a very Trump-like response to the question "Why are traditional vaccines like WHO-approved Covaxin, which has proven to be safe and effective in India, and which appears to have the potential to be effective against new variants, being delayed for approval in the U.S.?"

I was just reading about that today. That does seem like an assinine response from Fauci on that one. That looks promising as they originally developed for for SARS a related virus but SARS kind of did go away and there was no demand. It seems like there should absolutely be room for that vaccine as it is cheap, stable and easily transported and relives on already approved vaccine technology.

The one by the defenese department where they could attach upto 20 spike proteins also looks very promising.

[trapper700]

She is one of the many reason why more people should be vaccinated to help protect people like your wife who can not get the vaccine for medical reason

How exactly does getting other people vaccinated help my wife? Vaccination does not prevent transmission from a vaccinated individual to another person.

As for what more this administration should be doing for "people in your situation" what do you think that should be?

How about they start by not waiving the white flag and saying that we need to learn to live with it? I'm honestly in favor of China-style local lockdowns. It's kind of sad that they're the only country in the world that has a Zero Covid strategy.

But that said, I know that nothing can be done because America is so fundamentally broken anyway. Like say Biden and the Legislative branch can actually pass mask mandates and vaccine mandates (that aren't struck down by the Supreme Court). Who is going to enforce it? The police in this country are some of the biggest anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers. (Covid is the #1 cause of death for cops for the past two years.) They're not going to enforce that.

[YFIB]

I was just reading about that today. That does seem like an assinine response from Fauci on that one. That looks promising as they originally developed for for SARS a related virus but SARS kind of did go away and there was no demand. It seems like there should absolutely be room for that vaccine as it is cheap, stable and easily transported and relives on already approved vaccine technology.

The one by the defenese department where they could attach upto 20 spike proteins also looks very promising.

I don't know a lot about the specifics on the Covaxin vaccine, but what I noticed was that they filed for an IND on October 27 (to get permission to do a study in the US, which they'd need for an approval) and then filed for an EUA (not for an approval) on November 5. So while I don't think Fauci answered the question well at all, I wonder if it makes sense from the FDA's perspective to grant an EUA for a vaccine that hasn't been studied here when vaccines are widely available in the US.

[ojo]

I was just reading about that today. That does seem like an assinine response from Fauci on that one. That looks promising as they originally developed for for SARS a related virus but SARS kind of did go away and there was no demand. It seems like there should absolutely be room for that vaccine as it is cheap, stable and easily transported and relives on already approved vaccine technology.

The one by the defenese department where they could attach upto 20 spike proteins also looks very promising.

Trapper's speaking at a micro (personal) level, and Fauci's taking a macro view: talking about the fact we have vaccines already here that are waiting to be administered. The vast majority of the unvaccinated are not going to rush to take a vaccine developed on the other side of the world.

[Yankee Tripper]

Trapper's speaking at a micro (personal) level, and Fauci's taking a macro view: talking about the fact we have vaccines already here that are waiting to be administered. The vast majority of the unvaccinated are not going to rush to take a vaccine developed on the other side of the world.

It was developed in Texas.

[Yankee Tripper]

I don't know a lot about the specifics on the Covaxin vaccine, but what I noticed was that they filed for an IND on October 27 (to get permission to do a study in the US, which they'd need for an approval) and then filed for an EUA (not for an approval) on November 5. So while I don't think Fauci answered the question well at all, I wonder if it makes sense from the FDA's perspective to grant an EUA for a vaccine that hasn't been studied here when vaccines are widely available in the US.

Here is the article I read on it this morning.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10...e-peter-hotez/

[YFIB]

Here is the article I read on it this morning.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10...e-peter-hotez/

Thanks. I think everything I said still stands. I don't buy that Americans that refuse to take an mRNA vaccine (or J&J, for that matter) are going to suddenly want to take a vaccine that wasn't even tested here.

It's a great story, but I'd understand if they need to do more work before making it available in the US.