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  • Tyler Durden
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    Originally posted by Texsahara View Post

    In spite of what the actual words say, I think articles like that only encourage people. Anything that is not a definitive no can be perceived as a possible yes by certain groups and as a likely yes by the even more extreme groups and a "they are trying to hide the cure!!!" from the even more extreme. Which is not to say they shouldn't be published, just that they will be taken the wrong way. Objectivity is a lost cause.
    I don't think the answer to combatting misinformation is with more well-intentioned misinformation, but maybe I'm in the minority on that. Articles like this won't do much for those already looking for confirmation bias of their own opinions, but can help those who are not sure what to believe.

    The fact that this isn't plastered all over the tentpole media sites and I instead had to go to Gizmodo to find analysis beyond "LOL horse paste" is so disappointing.

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  • Texsahara
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    Originally posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    Finding objective articles about the ivermectin craze can be difficult, but this one is pretty good:

    https://gizmodo.com/the-truth-about-...tin-1847570437


    In spite of what the actual words say, I think articles like that only encourage people. Anything that is not a definitive no can be perceived as a possible yes by certain groups and as a likely yes by the even more extreme groups and a "they are trying to hide the cure!!!" from the even more extreme. Which is not to say they shouldn't be published, just that they will be taken the wrong way. Objectivity is a lost cause.

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  • Tyler Durden
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    Finding objective articles about the ivermectin craze can be difficult, but this one is pretty good:

    https://gizmodo.com/the-truth-about-...tin-1847570437

    It’s not impossible that ivermectin could have a second life as a covid-19 drug, even now. In June, the UK’s Oxford University announced it would add the drug to its ongoing PRINCIPLE trial, advertised as the world’s largest clinical trial of possible covid-19 treatments for people who don’t need hospitalization. The hope is that ivermectin could help prevent people’s early symptoms from getting worse and/or help them clear their infection sooner.

    But given the evidence so far, it’s not looking likely that the drug will provide anything more than a modest benefit, if that. Ivermectin is more than a simple animal dewormer, but it’s definitely not a miracle cure for covid-19 or a barrier to getting infected.

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  • Texsahara
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    https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2021/...id-19-patient/

    Craig Calcaterra@craigcalcaterra
    Lots of excellent detail in this story about the Ohio judge reversing the much-publicized order from last week requiring a hospital to administer Ivermectin.
    Least shocking thing in the story: wife of comatose patient on whose behalf she's trying to get court-ordered horse dewormer administered testified "that neither she nor her husband were vaccinated against COVID-19. She said it was 'experimental,' so she didn’t trust it."

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  • Texsahara
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    Jason Abaluck@Jabaluck

    With dozens of researchers at Yale, Stanford, Berkeley and IPA and several other organizations, we ran a cluster randomized trial involving almost 350,000 people and 600 villages in Bangladesh to assess the impact of community masking on COVID.
    With this 29 percentage point increase in mask-wearing, we saw a 9% drop in serologically confirmed COVID.
    Link to thread: https://twitter.com/Jabaluck/status/1433036923610742789

    This is still a work in progress but really good stuff.


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  • ojo
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    Originally posted by RhodyYanksFan View Post

    Eric Clapton wrote a song literally called Cocaine...but he's butthurt about a vaccine.
    [Flag on the play]

    Cocaine was written by J.J. Cale. The same guy who wrote After Midnight. He also wrote They Call Me the Breeze (Skynyrd).

    FWIW, my wedding march song was J.J. Cale's Aint Love Funny.

    Cale was way ahead of his time, and his contemporaries knew it.

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  • Tyler Durden
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    Originally posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post

    Fair enough. But I understand not appreciating Layla as much in 2021 when the performer is pretty clearly an anti-vaxxer. I totally get...and would act in kind...not showing up for a concert based on the fact that Clapton is actively against vaccinations in the context of 2021 and 700,000 dead people.
    Also a fair point.
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  • YankeeFan1421
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    Originally posted by Tyler Durden View Post

    I think there is a difference between an artist who creates art with a different political pov and an artist who does horrible things outside of their art.

    I can vibe with music I don't agree with politically if it comes from a place of honesty from the artist or of the song is just so undeniably good.

    I still love "Sweet Home Alabama" even though I don't agree with the political subtext.

    Cosby on the other hand is someone I'm perfectly fine with leaving behind forever.
    Fair enough. But I understand not appreciating Layla as much in 2021 when the performer is pretty clearly an anti-vaxxer. I totally get...and would act in kind...not showing up for a concert based on the fact that Clapton is actively against vaccinations in the context of 2021 and 700,000 dead people.

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  • Tyler Durden
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    Originally posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post

    I get that point of view but I find a lot of grey area. It’s hard for me to enjoy, for example, Michael Jackson songs, or Bill Cosby concerts, knowing what we know now. The art is undeniable, but it is discomforting to consume knowing what we know now about both of them.

    And going to a concert is a communal experience. Had Henley preached against vaccines rather than stating his opinion (that I share) that freedom comes with responsibility, I would have not enjoyed the concert nearlu as much as the chemistry would be off.

    wouldn’t make him any more or less of an artist, but I understand when people react with less enthusiasm to the art.

    im not comparing Clapton to a rapist or molester, but I would not attend his concert in all honesty, despite my decades long love of Layla and others of his.
    I think there is a difference between an artist who creates art with a different political pov and an artist who does horrible things outside of their art.

    I can vibe with music I don't agree with politically if it comes from a place of honesty from the artist or of the song is just so undeniably good.

    I still love "Sweet Home Alabama" even though I don't agree with the political subtext.

    Cosby on the other hand is someone I'm perfectly fine with leaving behind forever.

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  • Tyler Durden
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    Originally posted by jlw1980 View Post

    Give him a pass on that one. It was about his small child who fell out of a window and died.
    Oh I'm aware of the incredibly sad story behind that song, but I stand by my opinion that it's a terrible song.

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  • jlw1980
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    Originally posted by YankeePride1967 View Post

    I was watching some shows on Peacock TV and saw one of the popular comedies was the Cosby Show. No thanks.
    Ew. Yeah, some people are so egregiously bad that I can't watch or listen to the things associated with them.

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  • JL25and3
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    Originally posted by False1 View Post
    Whether you put it in terms of art or celebrity, the idea that we need to exploit people's addictions and pain in order to build or maintain entertainment from them should be shocking.

    Doesn't sound right.


    I’m sorry that came out as it did before.

    I have no desire to exploit addictions and pain. I would have wished for any of those people to have lived happier lives, and for them not to have died so young (except Clapton, who didn’t). But as it happens, their art survives them, and their pain is there for me to feel through it.

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  • YankeePride1967
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    Originally posted by YankeeFan1421 View Post

    I get that point of view but I find a lot of grey area. It’s hard for me to enjoy, for example, Michael Jackson songs, or Bill Cosby concerts, knowing what we know now. The art is undeniable, but it is discomforting to consume knowing what we know now about both of them.

    And going to a concert is a communal experience. Had Henley preached against vaccines rather than stating his opinion (that I share) that freedom comes with responsibility, I would have not enjoyed the concert nearlu as much as the chemistry would be off.

    wouldn’t make him any more or less of an artist, but I understand when people react with less enthusiasm to the art.

    im not comparing Clapton to a rapist or molester, but I would not attend his concert in all honesty, despite my decades long love of Layla and others of his.
    I was watching some shows on Peacock TV and saw one of the popular comedies was the Cosby Show. No thanks.

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  • YankeeFan1421
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    Originally posted by Maynerd View Post
    If you want me to vote for you, you should probably have some political positions that agree with my own. But if you're an actor, or a musician, or a plumber, or a barber, I don't care about your politics; I care about your talent in your specific profession. I never understood the refusal to do business with someone because of their political beliefs.

    'Layla' is a work of art. Clapton's political positions do nothing to add or detract from that fact.
    I get that point of view but I find a lot of grey area. It’s hard for me to enjoy, for example, Michael Jackson songs, or Bill Cosby concerts, knowing what we know now. The art is undeniable, but it is discomforting to consume knowing what we know now about both of them.

    And going to a concert is a communal experience. Had Henley preached against vaccines rather than stating his opinion (that I share) that freedom comes with responsibility, I would have not enjoyed the concert nearlu as much as the chemistry would be off.

    wouldn’t make him any more or less of an artist, but I understand when people react with less enthusiasm to the art.

    im not comparing Clapton to a rapist or molester, but I would not attend his concert in all honesty, despite my decades long love of Layla and others of his.

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  • jlw1980
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    Originally posted by Tyler Durden View Post

    He don't like
    He don't like
    He don't like, vaccine
    I guffawed.

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