Fire sale vs Keep All

[Saxmania]

Re: Fire sale vs Keep All

If he clears waivers, you are responsible for 50% of his salary, regardless of whether someone picks him up later (it will also decrease your GM rating by 3 points).

Hmm - I thought that either if someone else signs him in FAB, E would be off the hook, or that Crawford just wouldn't be available for FAB, as he already has a contract. But the GDR response should clarify.

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

[Go Buccos]

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This is from the user manual, which is what leads me to believe that E would be responsible for Crawford's salary if he clears waivers:

If a team waives a player and he is not claimed, the waived team is still responsible to pay 50% of that player's salary for the remainder of its duration. This "buyout" amount is paid on a distributed basis over the life of the contract. (emphasis mine)

[Big_E]

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This is from the user manual, which is what leads me to believe that E would be responsible for Crawford's salary if he clears waivers:

If a team waives a player and he is not claimed, the waived team is still responsible to pay 50% of that player's salary for the remainder of its duration. This "buyout" amount is paid on a distributed basis over the life of the contract. (emphasis mine)

YES, but that comes under the header "Regular Season", not pre-season, pre-FAB. Hence my confusion...

[Big_E]

Re: Fire sale vs Keep All

THE RESPONSE:

Hi Eric,

If I choose to keep all contracts, versus fire sale, can I then waive players I don't want?
If I waive players pre-FAB will that affect my GM rating?
If I waive players pre-FAB will I be responsible for 1/2 their salary if they are not picked up before the FAB period?

The answer to all three questions is: Yes

Cheers,
Scott
www.gamedayritual.com

[Big_E]

Re: Fire sale vs Keep All

I guess the last question is, are we able to pick up players pre-FAB? If I do a firesale, Pujols is out there. Can someone pick him back up before the FAB period? I know players are on waivers...

[Black Sabbathia]

Re: Fire sale vs Keep All

No, a firesale doesn't put your players on waivers, it resets them to the FA player pool. None of my contracted players went to waivers.

[Big_E]

Re: Fire sale vs Keep All

So what about the players currently listed as being on waivers?

[Saxmania]

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So what about the players currently listed as being on waivers?

Yes, I think so. The option appears to be there, and otherwise there wouldn't be a need for waivers - players would just hit the FA pool immediately, as no-one would be able to pick them up, right?

So your question is - if you firesale, then have an empty roster with $100m, can you start to add players on waivers before the FAB begins? Again, I think the answer is yes.

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

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Yes, I think so. The option appears to be there, and otherwise there wouldn't be a need for waivers - players would just hit the FA pool immediately, as no-one would be able to pick them up, right?

So your question is - if you firesale, then have an empty roster with $100m, can you start to add players on waivers before the FAB begins? Again, I think the answer is yes.

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

So I can pick up players on waivers, but not the FA pool?

Sorry for so many questions...I screwed up a lot of contracts last year, and there are some players I'd keep, but don't want to be hamstringed by a short budget (dropping Crawford and others for example) for the benefit of keeping someone else.

if I do a firesale, do all my players go to waivers, or do they go to FA, and unavailable until the FAB starts?

[Big_E]

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OK, so here's the answer:

MY MESSAGE:

Hi Scott,

So, if I do a fire sale, do my players go to waivers, or do they go to FA? It seems that waived players can be picked up prior to the FAB period. Are FA?

Basically, I did not know what I was doing last year, and screwed up a bunch of contracts. I learned quickly, and finished second in my division, but while I have some good contracts to keep, others I want to dump.

Right now, I am leaning towards fire sale. But I don't want Pujols and Mariano Rivera available to be picked up prior to the FAB period either.

Eric


RESPONSE FROM GAME DAY RITUAL:
Hi Eric,

If you firesale your team they will immediately become free agents. They will not be signable before the fab. They will not be on waivers.

-Scott

[Big_E]

Re: Fire sale vs Keep All

Fire sale done.

Interesting that the fire sale did not affect my GM rating, I am still at 68. Keeping all contracts and releasing those I did not want, would probably also affect my rating.

[Go Buccos]

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Yes, if you had not done the firesale and waived contracts you didn't want, your GM rating would have dropped 3 points for every contract you waived.

[Big_E]

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Yes, if you had not done the firesale and waived contracts you didn't want, your GM rating would have dropped 3 points for every contract you waived.

Which would have been or -12 on my rating. PLUS probably on the hook for $7.5 million in salary penalties this year when nobody picked them up during the waiver period.

It was a tough decision, but I think the right one overall.

[Saxmania]

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Which would have been or -12 on my rating. PLUS probably on the hook for $7.5 million in salary penalties this year when nobody picked them up during the waiver period.

It was a tough decision, but I think the right one overall.

I think so too - although GM rating builds up again fairly quickly. But the firesale not impacting your GM rating is probably important for new owners coming in to a mis-managed team; having to start from a blank page AND having a disadvantage in the FAB would probably be quite a turn-off!

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

[Big_E]

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Yeah, it builds up quickly -- esp now that I know how to avoid big negative hits to the rating...I think I was down in the 20s last year before I caught on...The $7.5m is the big thing. Plus I see how little money some teams have for the FAB, and I might get some of my released players back at a discount. We'll see.

So how do prospects work right now? If I click on a name it gets "added to list". How are they being picked up?