Fire sale vs Keep All

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OK, cool.

Hopefully that takes care of all my questions...at least this year I have a better handle on the FAB process.

[Saxmania]

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Yes, all roster moves are shown, even if purely internal - I think this extends to DL moves too. A little confusing, but . . .

Yeah I figured that out....but what about where it said it went from F.A. to a team?

That's a contract extension, I believe.

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

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E, if you see a transaction where a player goes from Prosp to...[team name] that's just showing that said team is signing a prospect (drafted last season) to their active roster.

Yeah I figured that out....but what about where it said it went from F.A. to a team?

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E, if you see a transaction where a player goes from Prosp to...[team name] that's just showing that said team is signing a prospect (drafted last season) to their active roster.

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$560m already committed to contracts
$440m available to spend. But nearly half ($200m) is by two teams: The New Style and Farging Iceholes.

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The only reason I even considered opting for a firesale was because of the lack of money most teams (mine included) have available for the FAB. I think you're right Sax that some superstars will be had at great value, which should make the league even more competitive this season than it was last year.

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Prospects can only be acquired:

a) through the draft in June
b) through trades

You're adding them to your queue for the June draft, or at least you should be. Check your Front Office/Prospects Draft Card. If you're signing prospects now, I want in!

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

Well, I see:

Julio Teheran from Prosp to BB...

...never mind, I think those were already on their roster, and are being moved around...

[Saxmania]

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Yeah, it builds up quickly -- esp now that I know how to avoid big negative hits to the rating...I think I was down in the 20s last year before I caught on...The $7.5m is the big thing. Plus I see how little money some teams have for the FAB, and I might get some of my released players back at a discount. We'll see.

So how do prospects work right now? If I click on a name it gets "added to list". How are they being picked up?

Yeah, the FAB should be fascinating. With two fire sales, I think having 4-5 rounds is the right idea, because there's a lot of roster spaces to fill, but with no money, I'm going to be spectating most of the time! Unsure whether the big stars will still be subject of bidding wars, or whether we'll see some massive bargains.

By my rough calculations, there's around $410m going to be available during FAB bidding, as opposed to $1000m last year - that's if no-one else plumps for a fire sale as well. So - salary suppression, or bidding wars over the remaining star players?

Prospects can only be acquired:

a) through the draft in June
b) through trades

You're adding them to your queue for the June draft, or at least you should be. Check your Front Office/Prospects Draft Card. If you're signing prospects now, I want in!

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

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Yeah, it builds up quickly -- esp now that I know how to avoid big negative hits to the rating...I think I was down in the 20s last year before I caught on...The $7.5m is the big thing. Plus I see how little money some teams have for the FAB, and I might get some of my released players back at a discount. We'll see.

So how do prospects work right now? If I click on a name it gets "added to list". How are they being picked up?

[Saxmania]

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Which would have been or -12 on my rating. PLUS probably on the hook for $7.5 million in salary penalties this year when nobody picked them up during the waiver period.

It was a tough decision, but I think the right one overall.

I think so too - although GM rating builds up again fairly quickly. But the firesale not impacting your GM rating is probably important for new owners coming in to a mis-managed team; having to start from a blank page AND having a disadvantage in the FAB would probably be quite a turn-off!

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

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Yes, if you had not done the firesale and waived contracts you didn't want, your GM rating would have dropped 3 points for every contract you waived.

Which would have been or -12 on my rating. PLUS probably on the hook for $7.5 million in salary penalties this year when nobody picked them up during the waiver period.

It was a tough decision, but I think the right one overall.

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Yes, if you had not done the firesale and waived contracts you didn't want, your GM rating would have dropped 3 points for every contract you waived.

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Fire sale done.

Interesting that the fire sale did not affect my GM rating, I am still at 68. Keeping all contracts and releasing those I did not want, would probably also affect my rating.

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OK, so here's the answer:

MY MESSAGE:

Hi Scott,

So, if I do a fire sale, do my players go to waivers, or do they go to FA? It seems that waived players can be picked up prior to the FAB period. Are FA?

Basically, I did not know what I was doing last year, and screwed up a bunch of contracts. I learned quickly, and finished second in my division, but while I have some good contracts to keep, others I want to dump.

Right now, I am leaning towards fire sale. But I don't want Pujols and Mariano Rivera available to be picked up prior to the FAB period either.

Eric


RESPONSE FROM GAME DAY RITUAL:
Hi Eric,

If you firesale your team they will immediately become free agents. They will not be signable before the fab. They will not be on waivers.

-Scott

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Yes, I think so. The option appears to be there, and otherwise there wouldn't be a need for waivers - players would just hit the FA pool immediately, as no-one would be able to pick them up, right?

So your question is - if you firesale, then have an empty roster with $100m, can you start to add players on waivers before the FAB begins? Again, I think the answer is yes.

Be seeing you,

Saxmania

So I can pick up players on waivers, but not the FA pool?

Sorry for so many questions...I screwed up a lot of contracts last year, and there are some players I'd keep, but don't want to be hamstringed by a short budget (dropping Crawford and others for example) for the benefit of keeping someone else.

if I do a firesale, do all my players go to waivers, or do they go to FA, and unavailable until the FAB starts?