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    NCAA hoops tournament 2023 March Madness

    Down goes Virginia! Down goes Virginia!

    They sure know how to suffer giant upsets.
    I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.

    #2
    I don't follow college basketball anymore but looking at Kenpom, they had UVA ranked 34 which would make them and 8/9 seed so yeah another high profile early exit for the Cavaliers but this one seems more a failure of the selection committee in over seeding them.
    Baseball is life;
    the rest is just details.

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      #3
      If you're looking for other possible early upsets kempom has the following that look over seeded
      https://kenpom.com/index.php

      3 Kansas St - 25
      4 Indiana - 29
      4 Virgina - 34 (lost)
      5 Miami FL - 44
      7 Missouri - 46

      If your looking for a 4 seed to make a deep run the other end is
      4 U Conn 4
      4 Tennesse 5

      Baseball is life;
      the rest is just details.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post
        If you're looking for other possible early upsets kempom has the following that look over seeded
        https://kenpom.com/index.php

        3 Kansas St - 25
        4 Indiana - 29
        4 Virgina - 34 (lost)
        5 Miami FL - 44
        7 Missouri - 46

        If your looking for a 4 seed to make a deep run the other end is
        4 U Conn 4
        4 Tennesse 5
        Missouri won.

        I have UConn going Final 4 in one of my 2 brackets so I hope Ken is right on that one.
        I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.

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          #5
          Princeton! #15 knocks off #2 Arizona.
          I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.

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            #6
            Originally posted by HelloNewman View Post

            Missouri won
            I was just saying there are a few other teams that Kenpom has over/under seeded, whether they win or not will remain to be seen. I have watched 0 minutes of college basketball this year so I honestly don't have any clue who is good or not. But I've found Kempom rankings to be pretty solid in the past and typically much more accurate than the seeding committee back when I did follow college basketball somewhat religiously.
            Baseball is life;
            the rest is just details.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post

              I was just saying there are a few other teams that Kenpom has over/under seeded, whether they win or not will remain to be seen. I have watched 0 minutes of college basketball this year so I honestly don't have any clue who is good or not. But I've found Kempom rankings to be pretty solid in the past and typically much more accurate than the seeding committee back when I did follow college basketball somewhat religiously.
              In my experience, ACC teams like Virginia are often over-seeded. Still a pretty bad game to lose, even if they should have been an 8 or a 9. Furman's league, the Southern Conference, is barely mid-major. Its RPI is 23 out of 33 leagues.
              I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.

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                #8
                Originally posted by HelloNewman View Post

                In my experience, ACC teams like Virginia are often over-seeded. Still a pretty bad game to lose, even if they should have been an 8 or a 9. Furman's league, the Southern Conference, is barely mid-major. Its RPI is 23 out of 33 leagues.
                Absolutely still a bad loss as Furhman came it at 88. Though not as bad as when Virigina became the first #1 to lose to a #16 in 2018. Though they did kind of make up for that by winning it all in 2019.

                Arizona is even worse. Kempom has them 10 implying a 3 instead of a 2 seed but still not far off where they should be while Princeton was 100. That's pretty inexcusable for Arizona.
                Baseball is life;
                the rest is just details.

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                  #9
                  0.06% possible perfect brackets left...
                  https://sports.yahoo.com/march-madne...201224417.html
                  "Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." - Ayrton Senna

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Yankee Tripper View Post

                    Absolutely still a bad loss as Furhman came it at 88. Though not as bad as when Virigina became the first #1 to lose to a #16 in 2018. Though they did kind of make up for that by winning it all in 2019.

                    Arizona is even worse. Kempom has them 10 implying a 3 instead of a 2 seed but still not far off where they should be while Princeton was 100. That's pretty inexcusable for Arizona.
                    You also have to look at this in terms of probabilities (and 538 has a helpful section that gives probabilities for the games based on their ratings systems) - there's always some chance that one of these lower ranked teams is up to the task. I actually got Furman right because I heard some buzz around them on a couple different podcasts and took a shot, even thought their measurables weren't great. That's what makes this all so crazy - and probably still the best sporting event we have for pure unpredictability.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by YFIB View Post

                      You also have to look at this in terms of probabilities (and 538 has a helpful section that gives probabilities for the games based on their ratings systems) - there's always some chance that one of these lower ranked teams is up to the task. I actually got Furman right because I heard some buzz around them on a couple different podcasts and took a shot, even thought their measurables weren't great. That's what makes this all so crazy - and probably still the best sporting event we have for pure unpredictability.
                      Oh I agree. Back when I followed this thing closely the opening THu/Fri was some of the funnest 2 days of sports around purely for the 1 and done upset aspect of the tournament.
                      Baseball is life;
                      the rest is just details.

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                        #12
                        CONGRATULATIONS FDU !!! Way to Play...
                        "The Yankee is one who, if he once gets his teeth set on a thing, all creation can't make him let go." Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                          #13
                          Purdue is Pur-DONE! Fairleigh Ridiculous!
                          I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.

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                            #14
                            Perdon’t, LOL
                            Baseball is life;
                            the rest is just details.

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                              #15
                              No perfect brackets again!
                              "Being second is to be the first of the ones who lose." - Ayrton Senna

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