May 26, 1959: Harvey Haddix Pitches 12 Perfect Innings but Loses in 13th

[JL25and3]

That must have been one really boring frat.

Delta House would have been drinking, smashing guitars, having sex with the dean's wife.

These guys are writing troll letters to Harvey Haddix.

Agriculture and Mining. Probably the occasional chemical engineer. Woo-hoo.

[Tock Ada Shot]

Casey got fired for not pitching Ford in game 1.

A really dumb thing for Casey to do..REALLY DUMB !

[HelloNewman]

Casey got fired for not pitching Ford in game 1.

Compounding it, he didn't even pitch Whitey until Game 3. Even if he'd pitched Whitey in Games 2 and 5, Whitey could have been a long-relief bullpen option on 2 days' rest in Game 7 after Turley faltered. With Casey pitching him in 3 and 6, he was not an option for relief work in 7.

I've read that basically Mickey and Whitey decided to go to Topping over that move. New arrival Roger Maris, the MVP that year, didn't have strong feelings about Casey one way or the other but didn't want his new buddies to think he was holding out on them, so he joined the rebellion. That sealed Casey's fate.

[ymike673]

Compounding it, he didn't even pitch Whitey until Game 3. Even if he'd pitched Whitey in Games 2 and 5, Whitey could have been a long-relief bullpen option on 2 days' rest in Game 7 after Turley faltered. With Casey pitching him in 3 and 6, he was not an option for relief work in 7.

I've read that basically Mickey and Whitey decided to go to Topping over that move. New arrival Roger Maris, the MVP that year, didn't have strong feelings about Casey one way or the other but didn't want his new buddies to think he was holding out on them, so he joined the rebellion. That sealed Casey's fate.

Since Ford pitched 2 shutouts and the Yankees had blow out wins in game 2. Had Ford pitched game 1 Yankees might have won that series in 4 or 5 games.

[HelloNewman]

Since Ford pitched 2 shutouts and the Yankees had blow out wins in game 2. Had Ford pitched game 1 Yankees might have won that series in 4 or 5 games.

True. I guess if he pitches shutouts in 2 and 5 maybe the Yankees win in 6, as we can still presume Pirate victories in games 1 and 4. Of course the change in sequencing would have affected how the other pitchers were deployed in those games so who knows. "Fallacy of the predetermined outcome" as Kay likes to say.