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I can understand trading Gallo and Chapman. But you give Stanton regular time in the OF and he will hit. I certainly hope they don't trade Stanton.Comment
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A few scatter brained thoughts after a 12 hour work day while I drink some beers
- I understand that firing Boone likely won't change anything, considering that there appears to be no chance that Cashman is fired. But forget whatever lineup and in game issues he may or may not really have any control over. The bottom line is he has failed at doing what he was hired to do, which is communicate well with the media and bond with the players to help develop them better. Boone has consistently been tongue tied at times, been flat out speechless when given any slightly difficult question from the media and nearly every young player he inherited besides Judge has regressed.
- Cashman. I don't know what his motivation is. He's a walking embarrassment right now. No team has spent more and gotten less in return than this organization under his leadership. I used to be a fan of his and had some sympathy for him in the 2000s knowing he had to deal with Tampa and George. At the end of the day he's human and he no doubt heard the critique of him from the outside that he simply inherited a ready made dynasty and had a checkbook without any limits. So he's spent a lot of time and energy trying to prove he's more than a blank check. Unfortunately for him, he keeps falling on his face. Sure its nice he finds a few diamonds in the rough like Voit, but you're the GM of the Yankees. You should be shopping at Brooks Brothers. Instead, Cashman does the equivalent of a regular schmo trying to find a really great deal in Marshalls on a pair of pants.
- I understand why Judge is viewed a superstar, not just by Yankee fans, but by MLB in general. He's literally a larger than life athlete and he hits the ball very far. But from my POV, he's done some dumb and arrogant things that always seem to end up with both him and the team being embarrassed. Maybe its because I'm 35 now and a bit past athlete hero worship, but if they traded him away, I wouldn't be that upset. He stayed healthy this year and thats great for him. I hope he makes big money, but I wouldn't be too sad if he did that elsewhere, especially if they could trade him this offseason for a big package of young prospects.
- This relates to the Judge point in a way, but for me, this team is completely devoid of players I want to root for. The young players I was excited to watch play for this team have been ruined, they traded for Frazier and then instantly created this narrative that he was some sort of asshole and devalued him right out of the gate. The only fun thing about the 2020 team was how well he played. Its sad that it looks like the concussion issues may have a lasting impact on him. But regardless of the concussion, the team has treated him like garbage from day one. Gleyber was an exciting player I wanted to watch develop and play for them as well. Even as a big fan of his, I knew that 2019 was probably an aberration due to the juiced ball combined with like half of his homers coming against a historically bad Orioles pitching staff. But Cashman and his motley analytics crew decide that he was now a Judge like slugger who needed to swing for the fences. That combined with playing him out of position may have ruined a kid who was supposed to develop into one of our franchise cornerstones.
- I don't blame Cole for his contract. What human being would turn down that kind of money? I blame Cashman for his inability to develop arms and for discounting the very loud whispers around the league about Cole's reliance on the sticky stuff for his top 3 pitcher in baseball renaissance. You already knew first hand that the Astros cheated on the offensive side and watched numerous pitchers go to Houston and either reclaim old glory or turn into one year wonders but you still went ahead and offered one of the poster childs from that team to a 9 year deal?
- I used to dread the idea of the Steinbrenner family selling the team because I remembered reading about the CBS horror days before George bought the team. But now? Jesus, go let Hal sell the team. It may be the only way to ever rid the organization of Cashman.
- Which brings me again back to Cashman. I know I already talked about him, but hey, I want to talk about him some more. Let me ask you all a question. If Brian Cashman got fired tomorrow, would there be a line of teams looking to make him their GM? Why would any small to mid market team ever bring in a GM who hasn't gotten the freaking Yankees with a 200 million dollar payroll to the World Series in over a decade? Why would any other big market team want to bring in a GM who has spent almost 4 billion dollars in the last 20 years and only gotten one World Series title out of it? Cashman is in the only spot where he could ever be worthy of a job, because no other team is stupid enough to give him the keys to the castle.Comment
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I just hope Hal is ready to turn the page on Cashman.Originally posted by AussieYank View Post
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No love for Pete? I think you guys should Turn! Turn! Turn! away from this.Originally posted by Obnoxio View PostI hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.Comment
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Cashman would be hired by the Mets within a few days of getting fired with an open checkbook from Cohen.Originally posted by jbell025 View Post
NYYFANS: See you on the other side!Comment
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Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen.Originally posted by Obnoxio View PostNYYFANS: See you on the other side!Comment
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Cashman is still the GM so no way they would trade them.Originally posted by ymike673 View Post
I think the off-season focus would be the infield. They clearly don't value Voit and don't think Torres is the SS solution.Comment
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I reminisce about the days of old. Today’s Yankees ain’t got the same soul.Originally posted by HelloNewman View Post
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Re the Yankees, what I’d like to see: 1) for Hal and family to sell the team to a counter-Dodger billionaire group (say headed by Bezos, if he doesn’t run for President); 2) that Hal would have the wherewithal to let Cashman go or else that Cashman would have the dignity to resign as GM; 3) that Gardner, a .256 life-time batter, would have the dignity to retire and let younger Yankee minor-league OF players (like Florial, Allen, Lockridge) have a chance to take his spot; 4) that Hal or Cashman or a new GM would replace the semi-successful but good-try-but-no-cigar Boone as manager; 5) get a new catcher (i.e., trade Sanchez and promote or hire a new catcher); 6) get a new SS or 2B, meaning: trade Torres--the Yanks have several internal INF players (Volpe, Peraza, Cabrera), although some free agent shortstops are also available; 7) maybe add a front-line starting pitcher, but I don’t think that’s where we most need to improve.Originally posted by kan_t View Post
Note: none of the above will likely happen.
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You're going to just have to Turn the Page on that dreamOriginally posted by Obnoxio View PostComment
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This thread has gotten infinitely more enjoyable in the last 12 hoursOriginally posted by AussieYank View Post
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I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.Comment
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I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.Comment
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Before I think about a plan for 2022, who should stay, and who should go let's first address the owners and GM complaint that this is the players fault. Take out 2019 from everyone because I think it is clear it shouldn’t count. Who would expect significant improvement from over this season given their recent history?
This team, surprisingly, was offensively challenged, so let's start there.
LeMahieu? No. His production kind of hovered in the same area all season. Looking at his numbers for the COL, this year doesn’t seem out of line with most seasons. Especially when you factor in 1/2 his games were played in Coors. His career number is Coors are much higher than his numbers were overall.
Rizzo? No. He was down last year and down on the Cubs before coming over. He may bounce back but I'm certainly not counting on it given it would take a big free agent contract to bring him back.
Judge? No, he was fine.
Stanton? No, he was fine
Gallo - Yes. I could see improving on his Yankees numbers.
Gleyber? Maybe more 2nd half Gleyber but not 2018 Gleyber and not defensively.
Sanchez? No
Hicks? He will be better than Gardner but will he be any healthier?
Higgy? No
Gardner? No
Gio? Maybe slightly but not significantly.
Odor? No
Voit? A bit. He was when he was healthy and a starter. He could probably hit to his career numbers, which is a decent improvement, but like Hicks, will he be healthier?
Frazier? I think you can expect him to be better than he was while unable to see straight and dizzy this year, but can you count on that happening? I'd say it is more likely than not that his career is over, which is really sad. I'm a huge fan of the guy and feel terrible for him.
Other than Gallo (who you can make the case is the same 3 true outcome hitter they are saturated with, just lefty), rolling out the same team isn't going to make you significantly better. Cashman's expectations were just wrong.
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