2021-2022 Off Season Thread

[primetime714]

If you can you sell the farm for Olsen and Reynolds, make everyone available besides volpe. Reynolds would be a absolute game changer on the both sides of the ball

I don't sell the farm for Olson. Not when I can throw money at Rizzo and not lose a whole lot (a bit offensively, nothing defensively) plus in an important game I trust Rizzo as much as if not more than I'd trust Olson. Don't sell the farm for 1B, ever.

Bryan Reynolds as a plus CFer controlled through 2025. Different story. Give them Volpe if they want. I don't think he's available though. Pirates have plenty of time to trade him before his value starts to go down and he's pre-arb so there's no financial incentive. It'd take Volpe plus Dominguez probably to get them even talking. You only trade a proven controllable asset like Reynolds at this stage if you're getting multiple high upside high probability prospects (i.e. someone's truly unloading their farm). I'd give them Volpe and some other good (not Dominguez or Peraza) types, but that's not enough.

[yank4life2005]

Pirates are in no rush to deal Reynolds unless they get blown away with an offer. Guys like Reynolds/Stalling/Hayes are what they should be building with.

[RoyWilliams]

Pirates are in no rush to deal Reynolds unless they get blown away with an offer. Guys like Reynolds/Stalling/Hayes are what they should be building with.

People want these guys from Oakland and Pitt in trades but most people over value what our guys are worth, You know what the cost would be for Olson and Reynolds? The farm system would be depleted and if they did not work out then you're stuck with them and no guys left in the minors.

Id rather Sign Rizzo and sign Marte then to trade good guys away for Olson and Rey

[dpbddd99]

Anyone know what is going on with the website "A Month of Fundays." They have not posted in over a year. Used to have lots of intel on Yankees.

[yank4life2005]

Anyone know what is going on with the website "A Month of Fundays." They have not posted in over a year. Used to have lots of intel on Yankees.

Yes...Phil who ran the blog passed away in September of last year.

[ymike673]

I know they don’t necessarily excel at this and hindsight isn’t always fair, but the Yankees in the 2016 draft picked Blake Rutherford over Bryan Reynolds, Pete Alonso and Bo Bichette. Maybe Rutherford will shine for the White Sox. But he’s no longer in NY.

Amazing how the Yankees drafting crew almost always picks the wrong guys but of course they all keep their jobs.

[ThePinStripes]

Pirates are in no rush to deal Reynolds unless they get blown away with an offer. Guys like Reynolds/Stalling/Hayes are what they should be building with.

What makes you think the Pirates are trying to build? They're basically a Wal-Mart version of Hal. Bottom line approach.

[False1]

If Verlander doesn't go back the Astros and they don't make a serious run at him, it should be a huge red flag. The Astros know a lot about him the other 29 teams don't.
As mentioned below, Astros have the advantage of being a team he's suceeded with, being the city he already lives in and a state with no state income tax. That's a 10% bidding advantage right there.

As an aside, how is that not addressed in the CBA? It's patently unfair to CA, NY, etc that they have to pay ~15% more to provide "equal" contracts. Having a good friend who went through FA, I can assure you this very basic level of "net pay" calculation is definitely taken into consideration. NY has what now- about 10% for FA level incomes, another 4% for the city and obviously the top bracket for federal. Eeesh.

A's and Angels probably have it the worst because they are not only in the highest taxed state, but they also have 20% of their away division games in California plus their inter-league games against a California game. Yankees are probably right behind them with playing Boston, Maryland and Toronto (49% all in), but at least Tampa is some sort of relief (no FL state income tax).

There should be some provision that says luxury tax is calculated based on theoretical net pay to level the playing field. That's honestly probably the "Yankee tax"

Yes, I've made this same argument for years. In terms of out of pocket costs, it is what it is. If the Yankees have to pay 10% more to pry away a player from another team that plays in a state without income tax, so be it. I'm sure there are situations where the Yankees may get an edge based on the off-the-field earning potential of elite players relative to other locales. But there should be a normalization relative to the CBT.

[False1]

$500k buyout. Then the 2mil like you mentioned and 250k in incentives. So potential for 2.75 mil instead of 3 mil option that they declined.

The Rangers agreed in the trade to pay the $500k buyout should the Yankees exercise it. So they are off the hook for that.

I'm actually ok with this one. He looked solid after they acquired him, maybe they see something (like with Holmes) that they can work with. Insane groundball rate too. They must feel like they can optimize that type of reliever, and this does seem to be an area where they've had some proven success. A little concerned about his splits given the rules around 3 batter minimum, and he is out of options, but I can live with this if:

a) They don't use his deal alone or in aggregate with other moves (*cough* Gardner *cough*) to cry poor and push away from the table on critically needed upgrades elsewhere

b) They have the fortitude to cut him if he does prove to be nothing but a LOOGY next year that gets tatoo'd by RHB

[YFIB]

Yes, I've made this same argument for years. In terms of out of pocket costs, it is what it is. If the Yankees have to pay 10% more to pry away a player from another team that plays in a state without income tax, so be it. I'm sure there are situations where the Yankees may get an edge based on the off-the-field earning potential of elite players relative to other locales. But there should be a normalization relative to the CBT.

True, but for the most part the teams in higher tax states also make more money. The fact that the Yankees don't spend theirs wisely isn't MLB's fault.

[False1]

surprised to see this. we let him go, he becomes a FA, and 2 days later we sign him to minors. I don't understand it except (1) the numbers games for Rule 5 (2) Gardy type move to save a little (3) LHP that we could use (4) Brian loves his trades. I want a more LHP: #2 SP and RP. It like buying something, bringing it back, and buying it again with a 10% sale. We always say it's the analytics.

The Rangers paid the buyout. Rather than exercise the $3MM team option, the Yankees re-sign him for $2MM (with $250k in incentive opportunity) but Joely pockets the $500k from the Rangers and gets a guaranteed $2MM from the Yankees.

[False1]

True, but for the most part the teams in higher tax states also make more money. The fact that the Yankees don't spend theirs wisely isn't MLB's fault.

It's also not the Yankees fault that other teams can't engage their fans in generating the same revenues. MLB already has measures to create competitive balance with revenues and spending. If the goal is to level the playing field, then level it.

[YFIB]

It's also not the Yankees fault that other teams can't engage their fans in generating the same revenues. MLB already has measures to create competitive balance with revenues and spending. If the goal is to level the playing field, then level it.

Tampa's never going to get the same revenue as the Yankees, especially when their TV deals are factored in. Revenue sharing in MLB is nowhere near as broad as it is in other sports.

[ThePinStripes]

Tampa's never going to get the same revenue as the Yankees, especially when their TV deals are factored in. Revenue sharing in MLB is nowhere near as broad as it is in other sports.

Yeah, this is true. At the end of the day, if nothing else, having a huge population means means more fans, even if they both attract the same percentage of their local base. I think Tampa has proven that. They've probably been, at least, a top 3 most fun team to watch in baseball over the past 10 years with little fan base to show for it.

Actually, the Yankees more or less prove a huge fanbase covers a lot of deficiencies.

[philleotardo]

People want these guys from Oakland and Pitt in trades but most people over value what our guys are worth, You know what the cost would be for Olson and Reynolds? The farm system would be depleted and if they did not work out then you're stuck with them and no guys left in the minors.

Id rather Sign Rizzo and sign Marte then to trade good guys away for Olson and Rey

I think overvaluing our guys includes believing they will produce at a high level here. It’s unlikely that Jasson, Volpe, Peraza, Wells +++ will all reach the majors and mash. I used to believe that Gleyber and Sanchez would do that. Acquiring both Olsen and Reynolds would likely require draining the system. Getting one, especially Olsen, would only mean one or two of the top names plus a mid. I think, after watching this current meh lineup, it’s a must to give it a significant push to make a playoff run, and Rizzo doesn’t do that. Not to mention he’s almost the perfect age where you start to see decline.