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    Sure. Get rid of Urshela since he can actually field a position.

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      Originally posted by TexasYank23 View Post
      https://twitter.com/volpeszn/status/...635330051?s=21

      voit, urshela, Frazier, andujar all expected to be traded or non tendered before the CBA per Sherman
      Does that mean Gary will be back or is he a UFA?
      David Ortiz tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003.

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        Originally posted by TexasYank23 View Post
        https://twitter.com/volpeszn/status/...635330051?s=21

        voit, urshela, Frazier, andujar all expected to be traded or non tendered before the CBA per Sherman
        Is that Sherman's account? It doesn't sound like it based on the wording. Not that I think it's fake, I just don't know anything about that account. Is there so.ething from Sherman directly?

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          What’s a Platinum Glove?

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            Originally posted by Obnoxio View Post
            What’s a Platinum Glove?
            Best performer of all the Gold Glovers?

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              Originally posted by Obnoxio View Post
              What’s a Platinum Glove?
              Best defensive player in each league.
              Correa and Arenado.

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                Originally posted by ymike673 View Post
                Sure. Get rid of Urshela since he can actually field a position.
                Would be foolish considering they’re doing this to accommodate Torres, when DJ is by far the better 2B.

                This is what you get when you task the person responsible for creating this mess with fixing it.

                "Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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                  Originally posted by ymike673 View Post
                  Sure. Get rid of Urshela since he can actually field a position.
                  Agreed Gio should stay..

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                    I have a feeling Gleyber/Voit/German head a package that includes a few top prospects to get Olson - and Cashman finds a way to include Manaea. I don't mind overpaying, taking on salary or "not winning the trade". I think it's the right move to make.

                    I have another feeling the Yanks will sign Seager to a contract that's too long lol - I sure would like to keep it at 7 years. But I like what he would be bringing to this team.

                    Even if these are the only moves they make, they will have strengthened three or four weaknesses - rotation, 1B SS and two lefty bats.

                    I'm willing to build a roster around these 3 moves. It can easily be a contender.
                    "Somebody once asked me if I ever went up to the plate trying to hit a home run. I said, 'Sure, every time.'" -- Mickey Mantle

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                      Originally posted by sjb23 View Post
                      I have a feeling Gleyber/Voit/German head a package that includes a few top prospects to get Olson - and Cashman finds a way to include Manaea. I don't mind overpaying, taking on salary or "not winning the trade". I think it's the right move to make.

                      I have another feeling the Yanks will sign Seager to a contract that's too long lol - I sure would like to keep it at 7 years. But I like what he would be bringing to this team.

                      Even if these are the only moves they make, they will have strengthened three or four weaknesses - rotation, 1B SS and two lefty bats.

                      I'm willing to build a roster around these 3 moves. It can easily be a contender.
                      Sure. Then add a decent catcher and we are on our way.

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                        Originally posted by sjb23 View Post
                        I have a feeling Gleyber/Voit/German head a package that includes a few top prospects to get Olson - and Cashman finds a way to include Manaea. I don't mind overpaying, taking on salary or "not winning the trade". I think it's the right move to make.

                        I have another feeling the Yanks will sign Seager to a contract that's too long lol - I sure would like to keep it at 7 years. But I like what he would be bringing to this team.

                        Even if these are the only moves they make, they will have strengthened three or four weaknesses - rotation, 1B SS and two lefty bats.

                        I'm willing to build a roster around these 3 moves. It can easily be a contender.
                        Oakland isn't going to want that type of package. Too expensive for their payroll and it's not how they operate.

                        They're going to want multiple quality prospects. You're going to have to start with Gil and Peraza + lower-level talent.
                        "Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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                          Originally posted by Zimmer's Helmet View Post

                          Oakland isn't going to want that type of package. Too expensive for their payroll and it's not how they operate.

                          They're going to want multiple quality prospects. You're going to have to start with Gil and Peraza + lower-level talent.
                          If the Yanks needed to add $$$ to the package, that suits me fine - I'm even willing to add Gill & Peraza as you suggest.

                          So how do you like this? Torres/Voit/German/Gil/Peraza/ and a lower level prospect, as you suggest, for Olson and Manaea?

                          Everything is contingent on signing Seager, though. If they sign Seager, they can even just signing Rizzo for a 3yr deal and use the talent pool for other areas - but Matt Olson and Seam Manaea sure seem like good fits.

                          Another thought: if and when the NL adopts the DH rule (hopefully in the next few weeks), Sanchez Stanton and Voit's values definitely increase, IMO.

                          I think it's exciting that there are so many different options to have in order to construct a much better roster in 2022.
                          "Somebody once asked me if I ever went up to the plate trying to hit a home run. I said, 'Sure, every time.'" -- Mickey Mantle

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                            No. I can't see trading Urshela (it's Torres) now but I am at the point that I would not be surprised what Brian does. Like a panic time to produce and spend.. Urshela glove is great at 3rd and SS. We signed DJ for 6 years to play 2nd. He is my only player I still like on this roster. 6 years so Brian could get under the LT (I feel was a mistake and not 80M/4 - I think he is 33 now). I believe DJ had an off year because we played him at 2nd, 3rd, and 1st. I hope the hitting coach will improve everybody and learn how to poke the ball with the bat. We don't have a plan that works but it's what Brian wants (Torres at SS which didn't work before we sign DJ at 2nd). I feel all the 2017/18 window and hopes should be all gone (including Judge). We screwed it up somehow. Sure Torres is better at 2nd (just look at what he did) but Torres will never be as good as DJ (fielding or hitting). Either trade Torres or put him at 1st. I know he will be better than Voit but he improved last year with balls in the dirt. (we hurt him too). Look Andujar was the most talented like Torres even more than Judge - I still think about another core and multiple WS.

                            These patches (Gio, Seager, DJ, Rizzo) never got us a WS because the present roster and allocations are based on terrible analytics that Brian follows. I know many poster will say how great a job he did but not me.

                            (IMO To reply to earlier post not signing Harper our biggest mistake (maybe) NO it was the year before by signing Stanton and probably impacted Harper)

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                              Originally posted by sjb23 View Post

                              If the Yanks needed to add $$$ to the package, that suits me fine - I'm even willing to add Gill & Peraza as you suggest.

                              So how do you like this? Torres/Voit/German/Gil/Peraza/ and a lower level prospect, as you suggest, for Olson and Manaea?

                              Everything is contingent on signing Seager, though. If they sign Seager, they can even just signing Rizzo for a 3yr deal and use the talent pool for other areas - but Matt Olson and Seam Manaea sure seem like good fits.

                              Another thought: if and when the NL adopts the DH rule (hopefully in the next few weeks), Sanchez Stanton and Voit's values definitely increase, IMO.

                              I think it's exciting that there are so many different options to have in order to construct a much better roster in 2022.
                              Again, your proposal isn’t realistic because the A’s aren’t interested in acquiring arb-eligible players. It’s why they’ll be looking to trade Olson in the first place.

                              Forget about including Voit, Torres or German in any trade proposals because that’s not what Oakland is looking for. They’re looking for MLB-ready prospects with virtually no service time so they can controls costs for a few years until they have to trade them too.
                              "Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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                                Guys like Wells/Peiria/Peraza/Gil/Medina/Volpe would be targets for the A's.

                                If I was an A's fan, than that is who I would want.

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