2021-2022 Off Season Thread

[False1]

Eppler signed Ohtani who made 3mil this season. Just slightly more than Brett Gardner. Ohtani will make less next year than Aaron Hicks. He signed Trout to his extension.
If given a checkbook who knows.

Those two examples fell into his lap though. Ohtani basically self-selected the Angels, and extending Trout was a no-brainer that any GM would have gotten done.

[False1]

I see and understand all the brouhaha, wishes, etc. about Olson. Still, I don't see the degrading of Rizzo, even for three to four more years, esp. if by $$$ we can save our tradable minor-league package for the likes of the CF like a Reynolds whom we truly need in my opinion. The stats are in Olson's favor, of course, since he's the young stud on the block, so to speak. But Rizzo's career, as I interpret it, at least allows for some second thoughts re any comparison between the two, even for the next two or three years. His defense at 1B remains one of the best around. I just wish we don't fall into Billy Beane's consistently wise GM clutches. Moreover, Rizzo's no "ancient" at 32 years old. At that age, Jeter had six-to-seven more very productive offensive years.

Olson (6 ML years):

AB R H RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS

2048 323 517 373 272 555 .252 .348 .511 .859

Rizzo (11 ML years):

5113 762 1372 814 661 945 .268 .369 .481 .850

Not sure what you mean by "degrading" Rizzo. He's a fine player. He was a great player. But even if you think his ~110 OPS+ since 2019 wasn't a new baseline for him, you're going to have to sign him to a multi-year large dollar contract. I think most folks that want the Yankees to be very active in FA are prioritizing the big money deal for SS first and foremost, and then some combination of SP, CF and C as other targets requiring money either via FA or trade. What makes Olson attractive is that he has 2 cost controlled years in his immediate future. Plus, he looks now like Rizzo did when he was on the right side of 30.

[ojo]

Those two examples fell into his lap though. Ohtani basically self-selected the Angels, and extending Trout was a no-brainer that any GM would have gotten done.

Eppler also had to deal with Moreno saddling the franchise with Albert Pujols (not that he was the GM who Moreno went around to sign (Jerry DiPoto))...

[matt2351]

Billy Eppler is a bootleg Cashman. Let that sink in.

[primetime714]

Correa’s comments about jeter are rich. Slow down kid, the captain didn’t need buzzers and trash cans to win any of his FIVE world championships, much less one. I grew up with DJ so I’ll defend him to the death.

pass on Correa for me

Yea maybe bite your tongue until you ink your next deal. You don’t want this guy on a 10 year deal, will be all talk and terribly irritating by the end.

[Zimmer's Helmet]

Yea maybe bite your tongue until you ink your next deal. You don’t want this guy on a 10 year deal, will be all talk and terribly irritating by the end.

Not understanding all the anger being directed at Correa - he’s right. Jeter was a poor defender and didn’t deserve any of the gold gloves he won. Why would anyone be outraged at the truth?

On that note, Twitter is buzzing that the Yankees have made a formal offer to Verlander . Looks like Cashman is determined to completely screw up the off-season ASAP.

[Portbb]

Eppler also had to deal with Moreno saddling the franchise with Albert Pujols (not that he was the GM who Moreno went around to sign (Jerry DiPoto))...

Moreno difficult. Their target for POBO is David Stearns who is close to Eppler and not available til 23. So Eppler if GM can wait a year working for Alderson.

[RoyWilliams]

Not understanding all the anger being directed at Correa - he’s right. Jeter was a poor defender and didn’t deserve any of the gold gloves he won. Why would anyone be outraged at the truth?

On that note, Twitter is buzzing that the Yankees have made a formal offer to Verlander . Looks like Cashman is determined to completely screw up the off-season ASAP.

I see nothing wrong with Verlander on a 2 year deal. Most people do not see a problem with it either.

[False1]

I see nothing wrong with Verlander on a 2 year deal. Most people do not see a problem with it either.

What about a 3 or 4 year deal?

[ojo]

Not understanding all the anger being directed at Correa - he’s right. Jeter was a poor defender and didn’t deserve any of the gold gloves he won. Why would anyone be outraged at the truth?

On that note, Twitter is buzzing that the Yankees have made a formal offer to Verlander . Looks like Cashman is determined to completely screw up the off-season ASAP.

Our ability to appreciate Jeter's actual merit is entirely irrelevant.

It's a significant blunder on his part. He alienated the fanbase of the richest franchise in the sport, which suggests a larger issue of poor impulse control.

[RoyWilliams]

What about a 3 or 4 year deal?

Why? I do not think he will get 1 so no reason to speculate about one. I very well doubt if Cashman made a offer it was not more then 2 years,

[sd.]

Not understanding all the anger being directed at Correa - he’s right. Jeter was a poor defender and didn’t deserve any of the gold gloves he won. Why would anyone be outraged at the truth?.

Because it is unnecessary. For a guy with so much negative baggage already it is an unforced error and it seems like a pattern of going out of his way to piss people off. He also didn't have to act like he did after the cheating scandle. He sought that out too and in a huge media market like NY where they will find reasons to antagonize you if it will sell papers and you are already hated it seems like two trains going towards each other full speed ahead.

[Zimmer's Helmet]

I see nothing wrong with Verlander on a 2 year deal. Most people do not see a problem with it either.

Informed people know this would be a high-risk and expensive signing with a high probability of ending poorly.

Spending $20+ million a year on a 39-year-old power pitcher dependent of spider tack and recovering from major elbow surgery is literally one of the very worse ways Cashman could spend that money. 🤦♂

[Zimmer's Helmet]

Because it is unnecessary. For a guy with so much negative baggage already it is an unforced error and it seems like a pattern of going out of his way to piss people off. He also didn't have to act like he did after the cheating scandle. He sought that out too and in a huge media market like NY where they will find reasons to antagonize you if it will sell papers and you are already hated it seems like two trains going towards each other full speed ahead.

He was asked a question and he answered honestly. It’s a non-story to me. Either way, I prefer Seager but that’s just me.

[sd.]

I see nothing wrong with Verlander on a 2 year deal. Most people do not see a problem with it either.

He will be 39, he has thrown 6 innings in the last 2 years, and like Cole he had a huge boost after going to Houston. So if the health risk wasn't enough, we are also going to find out what he can do in a post sticky stuff baseball after signing him.