2021-2022 Off Season Thread

[ZIM 2002]

I haven’t posted much lately, but reading the threads. Do other posters keep getting the message”504 error gateway time out” in the middle of reading things??

[jnewmark]

I haven’t posted much lately, but reading the threads. Do other posters keep getting the message”504 error gateway time out” in the middle of reading things??

I get it almost on a daily basis when trying to log in. Sometimes I get " Server Is Busy. Try Again Later " message.

[sjb23]

I have a feeling nothing is going to happen except the lockout.

I guess worse-case scenario is the CBA doesn't get agreed upon until mid-Jan, but then a flurry of transactions until camps open in mid-Feb?

Maybe lots of "gentlemen's agreements/rumors" in December.

[Obnoxio]

But how do you make those handshake agreements without knowing the cba terms?

[Zimmer's Helmet]

I haven’t posted much lately, but reading the threads. Do other posters keep getting the message”504 error gateway time out” in the middle of reading things??

Every day. Waiting for the new 210 error - Above Luxury Tax anytime we post about signing big ticket free agents.

[ymike673]

I haven’t posted much lately, but reading the threads. Do other posters keep getting the message”504 error gateway time out” in the middle of reading things??

All the time. Usually when I try to log in.

[sjb23]

But how do you make those handshake agreements without knowing the cba terms?

Man oh man if these organizations allow a work stoppage to happen or even allow a delay to the beginning of the season (even exhibition season) - they should be ashamed of themselves. Revenues should be back big time in 2021 - how can they possibly risk losing them??

IMO the players union should also be extremely sensitive to the importance of getting a CBA in place before January.

[Zimmer's Helmet]

Man oh man if these organizations allow a work stoppage to happen or even allow a delay to the beginning of the season (even exhibition season) - they should be ashamed of themselves. Revenues should be back big time in 2021 - how can they possibly risk losing them??

IMO the players union should also be extremely sensitive to the importance of getting a CBA in place before January.

Alas, never underestimate the stupidity caused by greed.

If history teaches us anything, I fully expect the owners and MLBPA to fudge this up in every way possible.

[sd.]

Man oh man if these organizations allow a work stoppage to happen or even allow a delay to the beginning of the season (even exhibition season) - they should be ashamed of themselves. Revenues should be back big time in 2021 - how can they possibly risk losing them??

IMO the players union should also be extremely sensitive to the importance of getting a CBA in place before January.

I know baseball attendance never fully came back this year. What about other sports? Every other one is in their regular season now. Are crowds back to normal?

[TexasYank23]

Man oh man if these organizations allow a work stoppage to happen or even allow a delay to the beginning of the season (even exhibition season) - they should be ashamed of themselves. Revenues should be back big time in 2021 - how can they possibly risk losing them??

IMO the players union should also be extremely sensitive to the importance of getting a CBA in place before January.

I fully expect a lock until mid to late January - baseball is in such a good place why wouldn’t the union and the owners want to mess that up.

They had a chance to be the only sport on tv during the summer of 2020, but couldn’t stop bickering in the press. This is the only chance for either side to get major media time, of course they’ll take full advantage

[ymike673]

Man oh man if these organizations allow a work stoppage to happen or even allow a delay to the beginning of the season (even exhibition season) - they should be ashamed of themselves. Revenues should be back big time in 2021 - how can they possibly risk losing them??

IMO the players union should also be extremely sensitive to the importance of getting a CBA in place before January.

You would think but history has already taught us that rational thinking has never been a strong.point with the owners or the players union.

[ymike673]

I know baseball attendance never fully came back this year. What about other sports? Every other one is in their regular season now. Are crowds back to normal?

Football looks back to normal. Hockey too from the games I have seen. Even with the Covid restrictions still in force at some of the venues.

[hhill]

Ok,boys...holiday is over, back to speculating the hot stove.
The Athletic has a piece on each team, as to which 1 player they are likely to get.
I'll include just the Yankee case, since it is a premium article:
Corey Seager, SS

The smoke emanating from The Bronx, as reported earlier this week by Joel Sherman of the New York Post, is that the Yankees have not yet jumped with both feet into the deep end of the shortstop pool. Given the depth of this class, waiting for the price to drop on one of the infielders makes sense, even if just signing Seager might make more sense. Seager offers the left-handed-hitting prowess the Yankees lineup lacks, and he can hit enough to retain value if he has to shift into a corner infield position.

[yank4life2005]

Yanks should just get both Seagers

[sjb23]

I know baseball attendance never fully came back this year. What about other sports? Every other one is in their regular season now. Are crowds back to normal?

Just under 2 million in home attendance for the Yanks in 2021, I think I read somewhere - a normal year for this organization should be 3 million - that's a 50% increase !!

I remember reading somewhere that attendance and concessions only account for about 40% of the organization's total revenues (retail sales & RSN revenues make up most of the remaining 60%, I think) and ultimately expenses are subtracted to leave profits.

A strike would not only affect attendance and concessions, but the other 60% is also reduced.

Hopefully both sides of these negotiations understand that greed and power are the downfalls of humanity (IMO).