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    #3556
    Originally posted by matt2351 View Post

    I was aware that this was being pushed by Manfred and MLB, but I was wondering if there was any evidence of the Yankees leading the charge on this.
    I have not read anything about the Yankees, " leading the charge ", but since Manfred works for the owners, I assume ownership is behind this 100%.
    More people have walked on the moon than have scored an earned run off of Mariano Rivera in the postseason.

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      #3557
      Originally posted by OhSoSlick View Post

      Yeah, that whole thing was weird.

      Although, I'm probably in the minority on this, but at the time..Whitlock was recovering from TJS, hadn't pitched in a year.

      So I can kind of understand not adding him at the time.

      I have wondered if they had a handshake deal with the team that it was only temporary just until they made some moves and would add him back. But it fell through or something.
      Doubt the Yankees would have a handshake deal with the Red Sox.

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        #3558
        Originally posted by OhSoSlick View Post

        I'm not sure how we got to this point in the discussion.

        Maybe I should have been more clear and separated my posts.

        My belief is: I'm not in agreement with those whom say who cares it's not my money. When to me, it is our money, fans are what makes the sport. If fans didn't spend money, go to games, watch games etc..players wouldn't be making the money they are making.

        I even admitted that it's a very small amount in the overall sense.

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-ticket-price/

        Average Tickets were higher in 2013 than they were in 2019. For example.

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-ticket-price/
        I agree with your belief.

        Average tickets are only one of the cost burdens for a family of four to attend a game. Add in parking, concessions, etc and I assure you that the mean cost for that family is significantly higher today with a lower payroll than it was almost a decade ago. Also, the average ticket price ignores elements like the fact that the Yankees added standing room only tickets a few years ago that didn't exist in 2013, driving average price down. Not to mention, the last linkage to the dynasty teams was gone and no longer a draw in between these two bookmarks. It's not a particularly good metric.



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          #3559
          Originally posted by sjb23 View Post

          Yeah, I was just looking at it from an organizational point of view - there's a line in the sand drawn somewhere, and I was just opining where that line is.

          So you think the Yanks should go to 8yrs/$250M ? I think I let him walk for that much.
          I've come to the point where I want this team to hang on to players that offer entertainment value. Do I think that a brilliant FO could possibly let Judge walk, reinvest his avoided salary into making the team better? Possibly. But I think what we've been seeing is that there is not a firm commitment to do that, so I'd rather root for Judge, an exciting player I love and that seems to want to be here, rather than root for that extra cash to go into mediocre consolation prizes and into Hal's already overflowing pockets.

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            #3560
            Supposedly Bowden stated Yankees will acquire either Story or Correa and Yankees are meeting with Story today

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              #3561
              Originally posted by primetime714 View Post

              Well, we have to figure that the Yankees will sign FAs eventually. Unless they make a lot of trades to clear up all the roster spots for FAs they were going to have to make more cuts. I don't know that you protect someone like Breaux, and definitely not Brito who did not pitch well in AA. Worst case scenario we lose a guy in Breaux that could be a good backup catcher one day.
              I'm sure folks thought some of those same "worst case" things about Whitlock. Besides, this team has proven it needs good backup catching. The point is it is an unforced error. And they have time before they have to add players officially to the 40 man.

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                #3562
                Originally posted by primetime714 View Post

                Semple is 26 and has a career 1.76 HR/9 in the minors. His K/9 is impressive, but he'd essentially be Andrew Heaney part 2 if he's in the majors this season. He's somewhat similar to Trevor Stephan who Cleveland took last year, so could get selected because of K/9 but I don't think he's a player we'll miss though. Brito has struggled above A ball. That said I could see them both being taken and put in a ML bullpen in Spring to see what would happen. I think this is the big miss for the Yankees is that both of these guys probably should've been moved to the bullpen in the minors prior to Rule 5 eligibility to understand their max upside.

                If you added any of those guys or Breaux would you cut anyone else on the 40 man for them when the team signs its first FA? I guess I'd non-tender Gary and there's a strong case to do the same with Andujar (although I think he's worth holding until after the CBA at least), but if you non-tender Gary his roster spot has to go to another starting Catcher. And hopefully they sign some FAs too.
                All that said I agree with the overall point that the Yankees have very poorly mismanaged the 40 man for years now. They stash way too many prospects on the 40 man hurting the team short term (roster inflexibility, rule 5 vulnerable) and then don't trade them while they have value hurting the team long term. If they were more aggressive in trading at least their mid-tier prospects if not the top guys (who often falter and lose value) they could use 40-man spots to give minor league FAs or others deserving a shot. Guys like Greg Allen and Stephen Ridings could've been on the major league roster longer last year if they didn't get sucked into playing games with the roster/rules and actually had some real flexibility. That said I don't know that stashing Semple and Brito are moves the team has to make. I may be proven wrong on that, but I think they actually protected the right guys this year.
                Trying to get something for a player is the point. Keeping Gittens over the 3 mentioned and then letting him go is not an earth mover but still odd IMO .

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                  #3563
                  Originally posted by Spinner129 View Post

                  There you go. 90 wins here we come.
                  Unless he's a utility guy, to take Wade's role perhaps. He offers very good defense at SS, has played 3B, 2B and even C at the ML level and appears to be a decent baserunner.

                  If he's being pursued as the starting SS, then yes we have problems.

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                    #3564
                    IMO the LT should kick in @ $250M for the next 5 years - but there should be a $100M floor, and teams get penalized for not spending at least $100M
                    "Somebody once asked me if I ever went up to the plate trying to hit a home run. I said, 'Sure, every time.'" -- Mickey Mantle

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                      #3565
                      Originally posted by yank4life2005 View Post
                      Supposedly Bowden stated Yankees will acquire either Story or Correa and Yankees are meeting with Story today
                      getting story would have a very kei igawa feel to it
                      Listen to the bell Grossbard, it tolls for thee.

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                        #3566
                        Originally posted by yank4life2005 View Post
                        Supposedly Bowden stated Yankees will acquire either Story or Correa and Yankees are meeting with Story today
                        Bowden is a bad source usually.

                        My guess is he misunderstood that the Yankees were meeting today on the "story" they are going to sell the fanbase.

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                          #3567
                          Originally posted by yank4life2005 View Post
                          Supposedly Bowden stated Yankees will acquire either Story or Correa and Yankees are meeting with Story today
                          I'll be kind and say Bowden doesn't have the greatest track record so I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.
                          David Ortiz tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003.

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                            #3568
                            Bowden has been pretty accurate so far this offseason surprisingly.

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                              #3569
                              I'm going to guess that the Mets moves will "inspire" the Yankee organization and we'll see some headline news pretty soon.

                              On the other hand, I'm not a very good guesser.
                              "Somebody once asked me if I ever went up to the plate trying to hit a home run. I said, 'Sure, every time.'" -- Mickey Mantle

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                                #3570
                                My feeling is we win either way:
                                Either Cash comes up with Correa,keeps Rizzo and pulls another rabbit out OR he does nothing but takes scraps. In the later case Cash is finished as GM after the next season.
                                We just have to be patient for one more season.

                                Is there a flaw in my reasoning?

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