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    #556
    Originally posted by Art Vanderlay View Post
    Man I wish the Yankees had a reliever like Whitlock. Oh wait....

    Wake up Hal.
    They do. They have Holmes.

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      #557
      Originally posted by Benefactor View Post

      They do. They have Holmes.
      This can’t be serious. Not protecting Whitlock is one of the biggest blunders ever and your come back is we have Holmes.

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        #558
        Well Hou vs Boston uggh can they just eliminate each other. I will have to root for Houston as nothing inside me would ever let me root for them. So i guess it will be 2 of the same ole teams LA SF HOU OR BOS 2 of those 4 in the WS

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          #559
          Originally posted by Art Vanderlay View Post

          This can’t be serious. Not protecting Whitlock is one of the biggest blunders ever and your come back is we have Holmes.
          It is now but the scouts either failed or something. You can't protect everyone but someone missed what he has but then again who knows how he would have done in NY. I never liked signing more then 1 high dollar RP cause if you look hard enough you can find ones like them all around. Who says withlock does not get figured out and bombs? it is what it is.

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            #560
            Originally posted by Art Vanderlay View Post

            This can’t be serious. Not protecting Whitlock is one of the biggest blunders ever and your come back is we have Holmes.
            if Whitlock were still with the organization, he’d almost definitely be stuck at the Alternate Site in Scranton right now. That's how Cashman rolls. But yeah, choosing Kriske over Whitlock was bad.

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              #561
              Originally posted by Benefactor View Post
              Rays gone.
              I despise Boston. But if they win another title this year, they continue to close the gap when assessing franchise success the last 50 years.

              If Boston wins another title this year, then in the last 50 years.

              World Series titles: Yankees 7, Boston 5
              World Series appearances Yankees 11, Boston 7
              Division Titles: Yankees 19, Boston 10

              Boston closing the gap would trigger a spending spree by George. Hal on the other hand will probably be sipping martinis with Cashman while jointly planning the fancy Stadium banner honoring this year's wild card berth.

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                #562
                Ugh, imagine if the Red Sox or Astros win the WS. At least the Astros have some kind of core they've been working around. What the heck do the Red Sox have? They're overachieving way more than the 2017 Yankees did, and presumably Core won't be let go at the end of the season.

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                  #563
                  Originally posted by RoyWilliams View Post

                  It is now but the scouts either failed or something. You can't protect everyone but someone missed what he has but then again who knows how he would have done in NY. I never liked signing more then 1 high dollar RP cause if you look hard enough you can find ones like them all around. Who says withlock does not get figured out and bombs? it is what it is.
                  The Yankees paid above slot to get him, they knew his talent. Not protecting him was a colossal blunder.

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                    #564
                    We’re paying the karmic price for the 90s successes. Like I said last week, they don’t just lose any more they get absolutely pantsed. They’re getting repeatedly out classed by the Red Sox, and most of the league, and there’s no accountability.
                    Listen to the bell Grossbard, it tolls for thee.

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                      #565
                      Originally posted by False1 View Post
                      Then we're good on that point. So you agree that FO should be harshly criticized for NOT deploying its resources to maximum advantage in terms of revenue reinvested in the system? And that we as fans should thoroughly condemn any "crapshoot" nonsense the FO tries to put out there for the garbage that it is? If so, then the back and forth stuff previously and below confuses me...

                      Nearly every series decided by one game? I think that's a HUGE overstatement.

                      And sure, you could make these types of arguments... if you're into excuses. You could also make the argument, which is more germane to this particular discussion, that if the 2004 Yankees had a better 1B on the roster than the guy with a 95 OPS+ in the regular season that went 3 for 22 with 10 K's in the 2004 postseason that it might not have come down to that situation at all. That's kind of the whole point of this discussion. Yes, odd things happen like freak plays or David Freese or Madison Bumgarner or whatever. ALL THE MORE REASON to have the best possible roster to reduce the risk of those oddball things being the only thing that separates the team from defeat.

                      Where I'm going with this is that - hey - the Braves are on the doorstep of the NLCS without Acuna. Joc Pederson hit a big HR! Does that mean they should trade Acuna and sign Pederson to a long term deal? Of course not. Acuna is the better player and drastically increases their odds of winning materially over Pederson. They shouldn't try to reduce payroll by trading away Acuna and his $15MM and trying to sign Pederson to say a 1/$5MM deal becasue crapshoot.

                      Funny what a 13 game win streak will do for winning percentage. They then proceeded to go 16-18 immediately thereafter to close out the season. Did you envision them as a .630 winning percentage team as they were backing themselves into the wildcard game?
                      im still not sure what your point is on some of it but yes the Yankees can be criticized for not spending revenues on product, while still acknowledging that the short series can still absolutely be a crap shoot. The later does not excuse the FO of the former.

                      look at Boston tampa. Boston limped in to the WC just like Yankees, being swept at home by those Yankees, losing 2-3 to Baltimore and having to come back from 5-0 deficit to a Nats team that quit at tge deadline and threw a kid in his MLB debeut played 530 ball in the 2nd half and lost 11 of the final 15 meetings with Tampa this year. While Tampa won 100 games, had the best run differential in the AL, and played 653 ball in the 2nd half and yet Boston will be playing the next round not Tampa.

                      as for 04 didn’t Giambi have some weird injury that year that kept him out? I’m not making excuses, I’m just saying in nearly every series that is 4-3 or 3-2, you can probably find 1 or 2 plays that could swing the outcome.
                      Baseball is life;
                      the rest is just details.

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                        #566
                        It is better for us to take our medicine and root for boston ...it will humiliate the yankee brass into possibly bigger changes.

                        Embarrassment is all that might work

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                          #567
                          Originally posted by Art Vanderlay View Post

                          The Yankees paid above slot to get him, they knew his talent. Not protecting him was a colossal blunder.
                          Yup, the biggest blunder of an offseason filled with them. Amazing that Cashman has the media so wrapped around his finger that they haven’t ripped him to shreds for this. This was a season ending blunder considering the Red Sox never make the postseason without Whitlock. The story of the Yankees castoff becoming the Red Sox secret weapon is too rich to be so rarely covered. Especially when you look at all of the players Cashman kept over him many of whom were cut anyway.

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                            #568
                            Originally posted by primetime714 View Post

                            Yup, the biggest blunder of an offseason filled with them. Amazing that Cashman has the media so wrapped around his finger that they haven’t ripped him to shreds for this. This was a season ending blunder considering the Red Sox never make the postseason without Whitlock. The story of the Yankees castoff becoming the Red Sox secret weapon is too rich to be so rarely covered. Especially when you look at all of the players Cashman kept over him many of whom were cut anyway.
                            TheWhitlock decision makes me ill
                            Baseball is life;
                            the rest is just details.

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                              #569
                              Originally posted by hhill View Post
                              It is better for us to take our medicine and root for boston ...it will humiliate the yankee brass into possibly bigger changes.

                              Embarrassment is all that might work
                              Actually quite the opposite, Boston winning plays into Cashman’s narrative that the postseason is a crapshoot. And gives him the narrative that they lost to the best/hottest team even though they would’ve lost to any team in this playoff field.

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                                #570
                                Originally posted by hhill View Post
                                It is better for us to take our medicine and root for boston ...it will humiliate the yankee brass into possibly bigger changes.

                                Embarrassment is all that might work
                                Nah what Boston does will not move Hal or Cashman. We have to deal with the Jays and the Rays again next year. The Rays over did themself but put up a good fight. I do not think that bothers Hal at all or Cashman. They believe in the process which is keep the team in the playoff hunt to sell seats.

                                The Yankees need good starters Besides Cole and him finding a way to cope without pine tar. Tampa lost because they did not have a starter like Glasnow who is not going to be back for a long time yet.

                                The Yankees need to sign Ray but only if a decent price and not over pay. to have Cole/Ray/Monty/Sevy/Tallion rotation would be good and you can have German in the pen along with Gil and the guys we already have.

                                You win the post season with good starting pitching just look at the teams left besides the Sox they all have top starting pitching.

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