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Originally posted by TexasYank23 View PostHal leaning towards keeping boone: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ne-sources-say
Please sell the team
I hid in the clouded wrath of the crowd, when they said "sit down" I stood up.
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Originally posted by jnewmark View PostThe 267 mil Dodgers are in trouble.
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Originally posted by TexasYank23 View PostHal leaning towards keeping boone: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ne-sources-say
Please sell the team
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Originally posted by TexasYank23 View PostI'm not even one of these "anti-analytics" guys, information is good in any organization - but please go get a manager with a feel for the game and understands the nuances of baseball- why is it so hard for the FO to see that.More people have walked on the moon than have scored an earned run off of Mariano Rivera in the postseason.
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Originally posted by JL25and3 View Post
The Yankees' problem isn't an overreliance on analytics (which did win the AL East for the Rays). It's an overreliance on bad analytics.
For instance, I know the numbers say that a starter going through a lineup for the third time is likely to get in trouble at that point. But likely does not mean "always". If your starter is through 5, has given up 3 runs, and thrown nearly 100 pitches, then I agree that the third time through the lineup is probably going to be bad, and get the relievers in...
But if your starter is at 75 pitches, has mowed down the opposition and given up just 1 hit when the third time comes around, then that is one of those times.. 3rd time, 4th time, 5th time.. I don't care, the guy is unhittable today.. today is the day we don't follow the damned analytics script.
Same with hitters.. they don't believe in "hot" but it does exist.. sometimes guys just feel good about their at bats. You plan to give Judge off in a couple days, ok, that's the plan, and I have no problem having the plan. But if the guy goes 10 for 12 with 4 homers and 2 doubles before that game, I don't care if you wanna DH him or something, the guy clearly sees beach balls coming up there, he has to play unless there is a legit injury. He'll cool off in a few days, then sit him if you want..
And the bullpen is another aspect. They plan out their reliever usage, and again the plan is fine. So let's say your plan is Holmes in the 6th, Loaisiga 7th, Green 8th and Chapman 9th. That "plan" is fine with me, but it must be subject to change. If Holmes comes in and throws 9 pitches in the 6th and no one touches him, he pitches the 7th. Every time you replace a pitcher who is going well with another pitcher, you reduce the odds of winning. The more people you bring in, the higher the liklihood someone is going to "not have it today". If you can mitigate or remove that risk, then you have to do so.
But they don't do any of these things. Their plan is not a plan, its the ten commandments written in stone tablet with blood... That may not be why we did not win the division, although I bet I could argue it, but it is absolutely why that WC game was in Boston instead of NY.. one more win and we play in NY last Tuesday.. and these "plans" cost us at least one game, and likely many more..I used to think I was crazy... Now I am sure of it..
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Originally posted by ymike673 View Post
Sure. But to be fair why are they playing the Giants in the first round. The team with the best record should be playing the 4th best record in the DS series. Same for the Giants. 107 wins and have to play the 106 win Dodgers. Meanwhile the Brewers play the Braves in the other round.More people have walked on the moon than have scored an earned run off of Mariano Rivera in the postseason.
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Originally posted by TexasYank23 View PostHal leaning towards keeping boone: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ne-sources-say
Please sell the team
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Originally posted by aeromac76 View Post
It's not just the fact they use analytics, it's the fact they are so reliant on them they do not trust their eyes anymore..
For instance, I know the numbers say that a starter going through a lineup for the third time is likely to get in trouble at that point. But likely does not mean "always". If your starter is through 5, has given up 3 runs, and thrown nearly 100 pitches, then I agree that the third time through the lineup is probably going to be bad, and get the relievers in...
But if your starter is at 75 pitches, has mowed down the opposition and given up just 1 hit when the third time comes around, then that is one of those times.. 3rd time, 4th time, 5th time.. I don't care, the guy is unhittable today.. today is the day we don't follow the damned analytics script.
Same with hitters.. they don't believe in "hot" but it does exist.. sometimes guys just feel good about their at bats. You plan to give Judge off in a couple days, ok, that's the plan, and I have no problem having the plan. But if the guy goes 10 for 12 with 4 homers and 2 doubles before that game, I don't care if you wanna DH him or something, the guy clearly sees beach balls coming up there, he has to play unless there is a legit injury. He'll cool off in a few days, then sit him if you want..
And the bullpen is another aspect. They plan out their reliever usage, and again the plan is fine. So let's say your plan is Holmes in the 6th, Loaisiga 7th, Green 8th and Chapman 9th. That "plan" is fine with me, but it must be subject to change. If Holmes comes in and throws 9 pitches in the 6th and no one touches him, he pitches the 7th. Every time you replace a pitcher who is going well with another pitcher, you reduce the odds of winning. The more people you bring in, the higher the liklihood someone is going to "not have it today". If you can mitigate or remove that risk, then you have to do so.
But they don't do any of these things. Their plan is not a plan, its the ten commandments written in stone tablet with blood... That may not be why we did not win the division, although I bet I could argue it, but it is absolutely why that WC game was in Boston instead of NY.. one more win and we play in NY last Tuesday.. and these "plans" cost us at least one game, and likely many more..
The article is directed at businesses, but it think the reasoning applies to all fields that use predictive data. I'm a big fan of modern analytics, but it must be properly integrated into the overall decision-making process. I fear the Yankee FO is bedazzled by the apparent, but not actual, precision of numbers.
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Originally posted by ClownPickle View Post
Obviously. He doesn't care. He just found out what he's supposed to say from Cashman like a hour ago. Boone is doing a really good job. The problem is the players.David Ortiz tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003.
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