2021-2022 Off Season Thread

[Obnoxio]

I’m guessing Cashman is outbidding the Rays right now for Boone’s services.

[MyBoysKaosHavoK]

LOL. Pete Rose unloaded on the Yankees especially Gallo.... pete rose 3.jpg

[RoyWilliams]

LOL. Pete Rose unloaded on the Yankees especially Gallo.... pete rose 3.jpg

Kay went on today about t and it was true everyone but them knew after the 1st 3 there was nothing but that is on Cashman not Boone as i am sure that is what he was handed.

[ThePinStripes]

I have nothing against luke voit at all. If he was a good player in my opinion i would be happy with him. But he strikes out now way more then ever. He got hurt running to 1b just to 1b when he was not even suppose to run since he swung at ball 4 that was a WP.

Did he get a bad rap? i have no idea but his defense and type of hitter he is we have lots of. Why do we need him to take the DH spot full time? i do not hate any yankee nor love any Yankee even if they do bad. But the bottom line to me is he gets hurt way to much plays bad defense and strikes out like half our team now does.

I rooted for him in the short season and was happy but this year he just got awful staying on the field and his defense cost us plus his K's but to say i do not like him is wrong. I do not like his game at 1B or taking up the DH spot.

To be clear, this is in response to a post objectively showing he had a 137 OPS+ over 4 seasons with the Yankees. That's what's so laughable about it.

If that's a bad player, 95% of the league (maybe more) is bad. He's not bad. He's an elite hitter with below average defense that every single team in baseball would love to have on their roster.

[ThePinStripes]

The DH was built for a guy like Voit.
We don’t need Stanton in the DH spot. You lose value by not playing him in the field.
If Stanton needs a rest day, let him sit out a game. Same with Judge or Gallo. That is why you have a fourth OF.

The stats show that Voit is an above average offensive player.

Yup. Play Stanton in the field. Tell him he can't run into walls or dive. They don't seem to have problems telling great pitchers what pitches they should develop or changing great players' swings. Certainly they can tell Judge and Stanton not to run into walls or dive for balls.
It seems like all the Yankee players get hurt running basepaths, not fielding. He's a good defender- certainly adequate. The offensive production is desperately needed.

[newhampfan]

Any news yet on Boone coming back? Going on longer than I thought.

Probably in negotiation for how many years, not whether he comes back.

[sd.]

Yup. Play Stanton in the field. Tell him he can't run into walls or dive. They don't seem to have problems telling great pitchers what pitches they should develop or changing great players' swings. Certainly they can tell Judge and Stanton not to run into walls or dive for balls.
It seems like all the Yankee players get hurt running basepaths, not fielding. He's a good defender- certainly adequate. The offensive production is desperately needed.

Most likely, there will be a DH in the NL starting next season. That is 15 teams looking to add player to fill that position that only small number have a good option.

Voit, while productive, is hurt a lot. Honestly, it might be a good time to move both Voit and Stanton while demand is maximized. We have too many starters that are injured frequently, too many DHs, and too many OFers right now (They aren't going to play the jumbo package every day).

Get a 1b and CFer, Hicks can play the 4th OFer role, Gallo in LF, Stanton in RF. if you need to, bring in a DH on better terms than Stanton and healthier than Voit.

[ymike673]

Probably in negotiation for how many years, not whether he comes back.

Sure. Good Yes Man puppets are very hard to find. Especially one who will never rock the boat.

[NelsonMuntz]

I hate to agree with Pete Rose but he's right in this instance. That lineup we put out there for the Wild Card game was embarrassing--particularly for a team with a $200 million payroll.

[newhampfan]

Sure. Good Yes Man puppets are very hard to find. Especially one who will never rock the boat.

I bet they've heard the rumblings from the NY peanut gallery (us) re re-signing Boone, so that they're trying to low-ball him on years (two, say, instead of the four he probably wants--in case they want to fire him after one). Interesting, though. Will Boone stand up to his bosses in this one instance, and if so, why not most times?

[YFIB]

I bet they've heard the rumblings from the NY peanut gallery (us) re re-signing Boone, so that they're trying to low-ball him on years (two, say, instead of the four he probably wants--in case they want to fire him after one). Interesting, though. Will Boone stand up to his bosses in this one instance, and if so, why not most times?

His agent is advising him and likely managing this situation (e.g., leak about San Diego). Usually, it's Cashman that tells him what to do.

[ymike673]

I bet they've heard the rumblings from the NY peanut gallery (us) re re-signing Boone, so that they're trying to low-ball him on years (two, say, instead of the four he probably wants--in case they want to fire him after one). Interesting, though. Will Boone stand up to his bosses in this one instance, and if so, why not most times?

Unfortunately the media has not really called for Boone to be fired. So I don't think the FO cares at all what we say.

[Chaz]

I bet they've heard the rumblings from the NY peanut gallery (us) re re-signing Boone, so that they're trying to low-ball him on years (two, say, instead of the four he probably wants--in case they want to fire him after one). Interesting, though. Will Boone stand up to his bosses in this one instance, and if so, why not most times?

Darn, it must be miserable owning a small market team that must take worthless players at the trade deadline since they cost nothing and then look to pay their Manager less.

btw: the "small" market Carolina Hurricanes are sending their announcing team on the road this year. Yet, "small" market Hal, doesn't allow his announcing team to travel.

[sjb23]

If the Rockies aren't going to attempt to contend, why would they want Gallo - who has one year left before FA and who is coming off an absymal second half with the Yankees as a key piece in a deal? Is your theory that if he goes ham at Coors Field they can flip him at the deadline? Why would they trade pieces with actual and significantly more value now on the hopes that the big piece they get in return might have value as a half-season rental in the future? I like German's stuff, and I get the on-the-field opportunity he may represent, but his value is suppressed due to the off-field baggage as well as missing time due to suspension and now injury. I mean best case, maybe German turns into Marquez?

I know you later added Andujar and Schmidt as sweeteners, but the former is kind of the same deal as Gallo or German in terms of giant question marks and Schmidt (while I hope the Yankees can keep him) does have some promise he also has a poor track record with injuries already. If the Rockies are resigned to a rebuild, they're going to want way different pieces.

I agree with False1 - if the Rockies are moving Marquez they are going to want multiple cost controlled upside prospects.

I don't see the Rockie having much use for Gallo and I'm not sure why the Yankees would want catcher who has has show zero hit tools in hitter friendly MiLB and MLB parks.

Now if you want to talk about a package headed by Volpe and Medina I'm sure the Rockies would have interest, I'm not sure the Yankees would though.

Here's my thoughts, FWIW:

Yes I think German can replace Marquez - he can potentially become a #2 or #3 starter for a lot less money. Add another promising pitching prospect who is very close to sticking on a MLB roster in 2022 (Schmidt/Gil/Medina-pick one) and the package should get some attention.

Now add Joey Gallo (eligible for arbitration, I think - which should be about $7M), who has a year before he hits free agency. Gallo would be motivated to improve his value with a reboud year in Colorado. Let's say he hits his career avg (about .210) and whiffs 200 times. But say he hits 40-50 bombs. Let's also speculate that a newly created position (DH) might be a reality in 2022.

The Rockies are losing Trevor Story, probably. Gallo can help sell a few tickets and possibly flourish in a less-pressurized situation than NY, I'm thinking. And as you suggested, if he has a good 1st half the Rockies might be able to deal him for a good prospect or more. His salary is covered by the money the team saves by trading Marquez.

As far as the catcher - meh. I like that he's a lefty bat, he's smaller and more agile than Sanchez, and he can platoon with Higashioka, and the Rockies have another catcher they could start. But this is assuming Sanchez gets dealt. If you think a better deal is substituting Gallo for Sanchez, I'd go with that. The end result will be a pretty good compliment in the rotation with Cole, Severino & Taillon, while putting less dependency on Montgomery. The offense will be shedding at least 350 strikeouts between Gallo and Sanchez if both are dealt.

If the Yanks decide to sign someone like Seager (my preference), I'd add Volpe or Peraza if necessary - and I like both prospects quite a bit.

I think the pitching rotation will be better with Marquez than with German and Schmidt/Gil/Medina/pick one. They still get to keep two of the three prospects.

I think this offense can be better without Gallo and Sanchez.

And I think the Rockies walk away with some good building tools.@ a minimal cost.

[Yankyfan]

No more of Sanchez catching and Deal if You can Stanton...Move players of now not much worth, like Andy, Who will probably thrive with a new team to protect 40 man arms. Ugg...I have officially joined the Remove Cash group...Yes, he has created a mess here that needs cleaning. A mediocre team is the worst place to be with a LT issue!