2021-2022 Off Season Thread

[Yankee Tripper]

I keep saying this but in two years the orioles are going to be who the blue jays are now. They have some amazing talent down there and some already up here. The answer isn’t buying everyone. It’s having some depth in the minors paired with key free agents who hit and field.

They O's have lost at least 108 games each of the last 3 full seasons and have finished 5th in the AL east 4 of the past 5 years, the only time they didn't was the COVID 2020 year where they finshed ahead of Boston. With that kind of dreadful track records, they should have a stocked minor league.

[False1]

I fully understand Hal wanting to not go over the tax threshold. What I don't understand is keeping Cashman who is probably the worst person to have as your GM if you want to stay under $200 million and have a top team. How much money could Hal have saved over the last 10 years with a different GM?

I'm going to be the contrarian on this one.

I fully understand managing the roster and payroll with the CBT in mind as it relates to near-term and long-term opportunities. But it should not be an absolute barrier. It should involve a lot of strategy and nuance. Hal needs to stop treating his product as a cash cow.

They should not be "managing down" to the CBT while they have a roster with a window of contention. In 2017, when even Yankee haters would have said that this team has a multi-year window to take legit swings at multiple WS, they had a 40 man payroll of $224MM. In spite of adding Stanton and Cole since then, and creating opportunity through eliminating dead weight like Ellsbury, in 2021 their 40 man payroll was $207MM, nearly 10% lower than when the window was opened. In those four seasons the window has begun to shut.

They have reset the tax now. There are young, elite FAs available at positions of immediate need. Hal is making money hand over fist, pumping the lowest % of revenues back on the field in the game. Time to spend, and to allow BETTER SPENDING (e.g. stop re-signing players' corpses, stop overspending on names for the bullpen, etc) and a productive farm system to help you bring the payroll down over time after you've rebuilt your core.

If you're going to let the CBT be a hard cap on spending, then blow this roster up, start over, bring in new leaders and change the entire operating model.

[sd.]

It’s starting to feel like the Red Sox of the late 90’s through about 10 years ago (when Tito left) with the trashing people in the media on their way out.

[Vin]

Martino appears to be an enthusiastic Cashman backer. Here is a quote from an article he wrote about whether Cashman will be back that was posted 9/17/21 on the SNY site: "Yankees fans are right to yearn for more championships. But those accustomed to their team being relevant every year might be in for a rude surprise if Cashman and his group ever leaves. That’s what they’ve given you."

Heh, he’s manipulating the narrative.

[1936-1939JoeNLou]

I would love to have Correa on the team. He's a money player. Has that killer instinct needed to thrive in NY.

[TexasYank23]

I would love to have Correa on the team. He's a money player. Has that killer instinct needed to thrive in NY.

Yup - he would thrive in NY. He’s going to be a 300 mil+ contract

[Yogi-8]

I would love to have Correa on the team. He's a money player. Has that killer instinct needed to thrive in NY.

The guy a lot of Yankee fans profess to hate will be the guy a lot of Yankee fans love if he puts on those pinstripes.

[1936-1939JoeNLou]

Yup - he would thrive in NY. He’s going to be a 300 mil+ contract

That's the problem. You also have to pay Aaron Judge...if money wasn't an issue, it would be a no brainer.

[Zimmer's Helmet]

I'm going to be the contrarian on this one.

I fully understand managing the roster and payroll with the CBT in mind as it relates to near-term and long-term opportunities. But it should not be an absolute barrier. It should involve a lot of strategy and nuance. Hal needs to stop treating his product as a cash cow.

They should not be "managing down" to the CBT while they have a roster with a window of contention. In 2017, when even Yankee haters would have said that this team has a multi-year window to take legit swings at multiple WS, they had a 40 man payroll of $224MM. In spite of adding Stanton and Cole since then, and creating opportunity through eliminating dead weight like Ellsbury, in 2021 their 40 man payroll was $207MM, nearly 10% lower than when the window was opened. In those four seasons the window has begun to shut.

They have reset the tax now. There are young, elite FAs available at positions of immediate need. Hal is making money hand over fist, pumping the lowest % of revenues back on the field in the game. Time to spend, and to allow BETTER SPENDING (e.g. stop re-signing players' corpses, stop overspending on names for the bullpen, etc) and a productive farm system to help you bring the payroll down over time after you've rebuilt your core.

If you're going to let the CBT be a hard cap on spending, then blow this roster up, start over, bring in new leaders and change the entire operating model.

Very well said.

This should be pinned to the top of this thread.

To your point, the winter of 2018 is a perfect example of refusing to strike when the iron was hot. How much better could this team have been with Bryce Harper or Manny Machado?

[ymike673]

Very well said.

This should be pinned to the top of this thread.

To your point, the winter of 2018 is a perfect example of refusing to strike when the iron was hot. How much better could this team have been with Bryce Harper or Manny Machado?

Unfortunately trading for Stanton 100% ruled out any possibility of signing Harper.

[ClownPickle]

When Cashman comes for more money, Hal's first response should be why the Rays won the division the last two years with a 1/3rd of the payroll.

[Yankyfan]

Here we ago again looking to spend on what was done rather then what we could have coming up the pipe line...We are fine at SS... PITCHING AND CATCHING ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE GAME!!

[TexasYank23]

Great article on Volpe and Paraza: https://sny.tv/articles/scouts-antho...kees-shortstop

[Mixwell]

Here we ago again looking to spend on what was done rather then what we could have coming up the pipe line...We are fine at SS... PITCHING AND CATCHING ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE GAME!!

Given that we are going to be robbed of Cashman's rightful termination, I have turned my attention on priority #1 being to get Gary Sanchez out of here forever.

[TexasYank23]

Interview with Dillon Lawson, Yankees Hitting coordinator and the person who will probably be the next hitting coach, on his hitting philosophy and coaching style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74vIY6nYjlg&t=28s