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Originally posted by Chaz View Post
Cashman sure loves those poor fielding catchers.
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Originally posted by primetime714 View Post
Fair point. To clarify I wouldn't say its a primary intent and that he's doing it maliciously against the team's best interests. I think Cashman is always thinking about the narrative in a variety of different outcomes with self-preservation and Hal-preservation key priorities for him and the organization in all scenarios. Assistant coaches are public figures and have a role in that narrative both positive and negative and at least arguably in many cases potentially a greater role in narratives than they do in actual outcomes. So do I think Cashman at least back of mind considers if this is a person he could pin a negative narrative on if things do not work as planned, yes. I'm not accusing him of doing it maliciously in a way to set anyone up for failure though, but I do think he thinks about that thing when he makes a hire. He could easily say its performance objectives and no one would call him on it, but performance and perception are different things and I do feel like he's thinking about both.
I do think you're on to something with the self-preservation angle as I think that absolutely has an undue influence for a job that requires as much vision and strategic thought as owner or general manager of a franchise like the Yankees.
Two other things I'd throw in there. Greed clearly plays a role for Hal at a minimum. And I think Cashman has a god complex. When he wins, all he hears about is how he can only buy championships. When he loses, all he hears about is how he can't even buy championships. I think that hurts his ego, and he won't suffer it.
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Originally posted by False1 View PostMy personal opinion is if they are not willing to do all the things you list and more, they should blow this current roster up and do a complete rebuild. To me, the thing that makes sense about Olson is that, yes, they are going to HAVE to spend money to bring on FA talent. There's no getting around that if they truly want to compete in the next few seasons. Olson still has two years of cost control until free agency. He's an elite player that doesn't get paid like one right now. Marry him up with some high AAV elite talent and go to war. Or, stop keeping one foot on the dock and one on the boat and hit the reset button.
Hell, even if they put Cole on the block this off-season, who will drool and offer bundles of high-end prospects? People are going to wait to see if Cole is the guy who pitched for the Astros and the 2020 Yankees or just the guy who pitched for the Pirates. Jeez, I’m not even sure Dominguez would generate drool. Surely, other GM’s would want to see evidence of truly “martian” performances, but there were none last season.
The Yankees face big trouble next season. Yeah, Boston and Tampa—they go without saying. But Toronto showed that it has real firepower and was able to stay in the hunt almost to the end. That’s great experience for them, and God only knows what Vlad Jr. will show next season.
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You guys are building this into some deep psychoanalytic study of aberrant behavior.
My take is much, much simpler-
Cash is just not competent in his job and a typical profile is that people in that position tend to be extremely defensive ; they feel compelled to compound their problems bec they cannot admit they are ever wrong.
After all, did Cash ever play the game? What experience(s) has he had to show he is equipped foe the job.
Sounds like the Peter principle where he was in the right place at the right time.
Nothing more.
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Originally posted by Bauer View Post
It’s hard to believe Hal and Cashman would go for a “complete rebuild.” Their situation is different from that of 2016 when they traded Chapman and Miller for that prospect haul. They had offer something to make Cleveland and Chicago drool that year. I don’t see them having such temptation to offer this off-season. Maybe Judge, but in 2016 they had gold to offer to teams desperate for the post-season. After the way he looked towards the end of the season, who would drool for Chapman this off-season. I’m afraid the Yankees are in no position to “blow this current roster up,” not after all that big talk, annually, about being in pursuit of a WS title.
Hell, even if they put Cole on the block this off-season, who will drool and offer bundles of high-end prospects? People are going to wait to see if Cole is the guy who pitched for the Astros and the 2020 Yankees or just the guy who pitched for the Pirates. Jeez, I’m not even sure Dominguez would generate drool. Surely, other GM’s would want to see evidence of truly “martian” performances, but there were none last season.
The Yankees face big trouble next season. Yeah, Boston and Tampa—they go without saying. But Toronto showed that it has real firepower and was able to stay in the hunt almost to the end. That’s great experience for them, and God only knows what Vlad Jr. will show next season.
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Originally posted by primetime714 View Post
Yankees are going to have a lot of potential assistant coaches lining up to be their next scape goats this offseason. How can we not expect the best? I 100% wouldn't put it past Cashman to hire people he could easily blame.
Seriously, do not expect Cashman to make serious plays for A+ players. They are too expensive or they want too much. It takes a pair to tear down the Yankees and Brian just does not have the equipment to do it. Cashman will keep all of this talking and sign some can’t miss from Japan, Korea or Taiwan to platoon with the present group of aging bangers.
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Originally posted by yank4life2005 View PostWilson Contreras is probably the best available catcher out there.
I don't think TB will pay and SF is going to do something 22M club option. I will be following Austin Wells in AFL. (I would play Volpe and Wells because signing a top SS and Sanchez will hurt us for 2 -3 years) I love Buster Posey but he will never leave.
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/catcher/
Love hhill post. Brian is going to do what he wants to. thanks
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