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    #16
    Yanks need another starter! Who is out there that they can get in a trade without giving up top prospects?

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      #17
      Originally posted by Sixty one View Post
      Yanks need another starter! Who is out there that they can get in a trade without giving up top prospects?
      Probably not much more than another Taillon.

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        #18
        Sure would like to see this man start realizing he's healthy enough to go all-out for 6 innings every time he starts. Perhaps he's had a problem trusting himself. He needs to stay aggressive every inning. I hope Cole is teaching him that.
        "Somebody once asked me if I ever went up to the plate trying to hit a home run. I said, 'Sure, every time.'" -- Mickey Mantle

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          #19
          2.70 ERA over his last 5 starts. What changed?
          David Ortiz tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003.

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            #20
            Originally posted by NelsonMuntz View Post
            2.70 ERA over his last 5 starts. What changed?
            He entered the year with a career 3.67 ERA. We should be surprised by his bad start, not how he is now.

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              #21
              Originally posted by EvanJ View Post
              He entered the year with a career 3.67 ERA. We should be surprised by his bad start, not how he is now.
              Injuries impact performance though. He may never again be the same pitcher he was prior to the injuries and surgery. Fortunately he seems to be turning a corner. The turnaround in his last 5 starts has been pretty dramatic so I'm wondering what, if anything he is doing differently, or is it just a matter of him being further removed from surgery and rehab.
              David Ortiz tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in 2003.

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                #22
                He can't face a lineup for the third time. This severely limits his usefulness. Hopefully he can improve in that regard. If so, he could be a decent 4th or 5th starter.
                Brian Cashman: "I have no idea."

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by JDPNYY View Post
                  He can't face a lineup for the third time. This severely limits his usefulness. Hopefully he can improve in that regard. If so, he could be a decent 4th or 5th starter.
                  I'm thinking that in the immediate future, there's not going to be very many starters that will be allowed to face the lineup for the 3rd time. I'm thinking that at least 3 starters (and maybe more) on each rotation will be 15-18 out guys. #1s and #2s are becoming harder and harder to come by, and multi-inning relievers are becoming more and more valuable.

                  If Taillon can pretty consistently get 15-18 outs each time out - I'm good with him leading the back part of the rotation.
                  "Somebody once asked me if I ever went up to the plate trying to hit a home run. I said, 'Sure, every time.'" -- Mickey Mantle

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by NelsonMuntz View Post

                    Injuries impact performance though. He may never again be the same pitcher he was prior to the injuries and surgery. Fortunately he seems to be turning a corner. The turnaround in his last 5 starts has been pretty dramatic so I'm wondering what, if anything he is doing differently, or is it just a matter of him being further removed from surgery and rehab.
                    Many are overlooking that Taillon rebuilt his mechanics from scratch after his second TJS.

                    He wasn't merely recovering from surgery - he had to change how he pitches so he can protect that elbow.

                    Just my $0.02 but I think he's best suited as a spot-starter/long-reliever - similar to Michael King's current role.
                    "Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Zimmer's Helmet View Post
                      Just my $0.02 but I think he's best suited as a spot-starter/long-reliever - similar to Michael King's current role.
                      Will we ever have five better starters healthy? That would be Cole, Severino, Kluber, and two from Montgomery, German, Cortes, and others. Taillon makes $2,250,000. If he can have a 4.50 ERA in 5 innings per start, he's worth more than that next year, which is his last possible arbitration year. Judge, Sanchez, Urshela, Taillon, Green, Montgomery, and Cessa have their last possible arbitration year next year. That's two starting pitchers, two relievers who can pitch multiple innings, and three hitters who have all been very good at times including our best hitter.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by EvanJ View Post
                        Will we ever have five better starters healthy? That would be Cole, Severino, Kluber, and two from Montgomery, German, Cortes, and others. Taillon makes $2,250,000. If he can have a 4.50 ERA in 5 innings per start, he's worth more than that next year, which is his last possible arbitration year. Judge, Sanchez, Urshela, Taillon, Green, Montgomery, and Cessa have their last possible arbitration year next year. That's two starting pitchers, two relievers who can pitch multiple innings, and three hitters who have all been very good at times including our best hitter.
                        I liked the acquisition - in a vacuum anyway, not necessarily in conjunction with Kulber AND counting on Monty, Sevy, German. The question won't be whether he's worth the low salary. The question will be whether he was worth Roansy Contreras it seems.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Zimmer's Helmet View Post

                          Many are overlooking that Taillon rebuilt his mechanics from scratch after his second TJS.

                          He wasn't merely recovering from surgery - he had to change how he pitches so he can protect that elbow.

                          Just my $0.02 but I think he's best suited as a spot-starter/long-reliever - similar to Michael King's current role.
                          I'm optimistic the new pitching coach will get him where he needs to be. It's one thing to "learn" new mechanics. It's another to do it enough to do it well. I would almost treat him as rookie or a second year pitcher in terms of trajectory and expectations (assuming it's true that he rebuilt his mechanics to a large degree). If this was his second MLB season, I'd be pretty pleased and expect good things from him the next season or two.
                          Q: Who’s the guy on your roster that would have been overlooked if not for analytics? Cashman: Ronald Torreyes. He’s an analytical darling.

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                            #28
                            He won AL Pitcher of the Month in July and pitched well with 10 strikeouts in a no decision in tonight's 10-3 win.

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                              #29
                              Taillon to the 10-day IL, retroactive to Sep 7, with a right ankle tendon injury.

                              Sal Romano called up, and Jonathan Davis DFA'ed to make room on the 40-man roster for Romano.

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